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compared to russian cluster munitions the dpicm we will provide ukraine has a very low dud rate. they will only consist of those with a dud rate of less than 2.53%. we base our decisions on the needs on the ground — base our decisions on the needs on the ground and ukraine needs artillery— the ground and ukraine needs artillery to support its offence and defences — artillery to support its offence and defences operations.— artillery to support its offence and defences operations. some of us sign that confection _ defences operations. some of us sign that confection -- _ defences operations. some of us sign that confection -- convention - defences operations. some of us sign that confection -- convention on - that confection —— convention on munitions— that confection —— convention on munitions so _ that confection —— convention on munitions so there _ that confection —— convention on munitions so there is _ that confection —— convention on munitions so there is no - that confection —— convention on munitions so there is no clusterl munitions so there is no cluster munitions— munitions so there is no cluster munitions to _ munitions so there is no cluster munitions to provide _ munitions so there is no cluster munitions to provide to - munitions so there is no clusterl munitions to provide to ukraine, other— munitions to provide to ukraine, other atties _ munitions to provide to ukraine, other allies have _ munitions to provide to ukraine, other allies have not— munitions to provide to ukraine, other allies have not signed - munitions to provide to ukraine, other allies have not signed thel other allies have not signed the convention _ lots of news surrounding ukraine this evening. president zelensky speaking in just the last hour in istanbul —
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he has been in prague today where he has been calling on the nato alliance to supply him with longer range weapons he needs. but it is the white house decision to supply cluster munitions to ukraine which has divided the alliance. over 100 countries have signed up to a moratorium on cluster munitions — including the uk france and germany. let's talk about the counteroffensive because it has been slow to take hold. there are soldiers and western observers starting to wonder if a breakthrough is possible, or whether russia's defensive lines, built up and heavily—reinforced over the winter months, are simply too much of a barrier. today in prague, president zelensky said his country needs longer range weapons. without them he said the counter offensive will be blunted. there has long been a debate within the nato alliance about these longer range weapons. there are concerns that military strikes within russia,
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might lead to further escalation.but in just the last hour, the us has confirmed that it will be sending cluster munitions to ukraine. the white house conceded that the weapons carry a risk to civilians. but the national security adviser jake sullivan said there would be a greater risk if russia was allowed to advance further into ukraine. and — he said — american cluster bombs are less of a risk to bystanders than those used by moscow, because they have a lower failure rate. artillery is at the core of this conflict. ukraine is firing thousands of rounds a day to defend against russian efforts thousands of rounds a day to defend against russian efforts to thousands of rounds a day to defend against russian efforts to advance and also to support its own efforts to retake its sovereign territory. we have provided ukraine with a historic amount of unitary artillery grounds and we are remic up domestic production of these rounds. we have already seen substantial increases in production but this process will
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continue to take time. it will be critical to two fried ukraine with a bridge of supplies while our messick production is ramped up. we will not use leave ukraine defences adding type. russia has been using cluster munitions at the start of the war to attack ukraine. russia has been using cluster munitions with high dud rate of 30—a0%. in this environment ukraine has been requesting cluster munitions in order to defend its own sovereign territory. the cluster munitions that we would provide have dud rate far below what russia is doing, providing, not higher than 2.5%. this is the pentagon a short time ago. this is the pentagon a short time auo. ~ ., this is the pentagon a short time am, . ., ., 4' this is the pentagon a short time an, . ., ., 4' ~' ., this is the pentagon a short time ago. we are working with ukraine to minimise risk _ ago. we are working with ukraine to minimise risk associate _ ago. we are working with ukraine to minimise risk associate with - ago. we are working with ukraine to minimise risk associate with the - minimise risk associate with the decision— minimise risk associate with the decision the ukrainian government has offered assurances in writing on the responsible use of dpicm including that they will not use the
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rows in— including that they will not use the rows in civilian populated urban environments and that they will record — environments and that they will record where they use these rounds which _ record where they use these rounds which wiii— record where they use these rounds which will simplify leader de—mining efforts _ which will simplify leader de—mining efforts. ukraine has also committed to post—conflict the mining efforts to post—conflict the mining efforts to mitigate any potential harms to civilians _ to mitigate any potential harms to civilians. the you us is already invested — civilians. the you us is already invested more than $95 million in ukrainian — invested more than $95 million in ukrainian de—mining activities and we witt— ukrainian de—mining activities and we will provide more support to help ukraine _ we will provide more support to help ukraine mitigate the impact of cluster— ukraine mitigate the impact of cluster munitions on both sides of the conflict. fourth, by providing ukraine — the conflict. fourth, by providing ukraine with dpicm munitions we will ensure _ ukraine with dpicm munitions we will ensure the _ ukraine with dpicm munitions we will ensure the ukrainian military has sufficient — ensure the ukrainian military has sufficient artillery and ammunition for many— sufficient artillery and ammunition for many months to come. in this period _ for many months to come. in this period are — for many months to come. in this period are allies and partners in the us— period are allies and partners in the us will continue to ramp up our defence _ the us will continue to ramp up our defence basis to support ukraine. for the _ defence basis to support ukraine. for the past year and a half president biden has been clear that we witt— president biden has been clear that we will support ukraine for as long as it takes — straight to washington — our correspondent nomia iqbal is there for us now. a pretty robust defence of the reasons for sending cluster
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munitions. i reasons for sending cluster munitions.— reasons for sending cluster munitions. , , ., , ., , munitions. i guess there has to be iven munitions. i guess there has to be iiven the munitions. i guess there has to be given the huge _ munitions. i guess there has to be given the huge controversy - munitions. i guess there has to bei given the huge controversy around munitions. i guess there has to be l given the huge controversy around it given the huge controversy around it given that we are seeing some cracks in the coalition over it. the us cosmic view on this is simple. what was interesting just before at the pentagon briefing jake sullivan saying russia is using them so ukraine is justified saying russia is using them so ukraine isjustified in using them as well. he made the point that the ones that rush are using have a much higher, theirfailure rate is about 50% and the ones that ukraine would be getting from america, as you're pointing out, the dud rate, the failure rate is much lower than that. what is interesting is that we have not really see any evidence of that so far so it has not been disclosed to the media. are saying that these tests have been taken, five over a course of a few years to show, determined that these munitions have this low failure rate. but does not stop it from
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being controversial because you do have more than 100 countries, nato member countries who are concerned about this. they signed this 2008 tree which bars the stockpiling, use, production of cluster munitions, but america is confident that these munitions are justified in being sent to ukraine and also making the point that ukraine has incentive to make sure that after the war is over, whenever that will be, that these munitions will be cleared up. at the us will insist in that. , ., ~ cleared up. at the us will insist in that. , . ,, ., , cleared up. at the us will insist in that. , . ~' . , , cleared up. at the us will insist in that. , . ,, ., , , ., that. they talk about why they would be advantageous _ that. they talk about why they would be advantageous on _ that. they talk about why they would be advantageous on the _ that. they talk about why they would be advantageous on the battlefield i | be advantageous on the battlefield i wonder if that also comes down to the us, they have sent out an awful lot of shells for the howitzers, t, they don't produce it any more, this weapon, not for the us army, do they have a sense of it's there, we are a bit low on munitions that we could
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send so we should send this. thea;r send so we should send this. they ihase send so we should send this. they phase them _ send so we should send this. they phase them out _ send so we should send this. they phase them out in _ send so we should send this. they phase them out in 2016, _ send so we should send this. tie: phase them out in 2016, america which is inherently contradictory because they agreed they provide —— posed a risk to civilians theyjust have a huge stockpile just waiting to go. ukraine has already had howitzer artillery weaponry to launch them. so in that sense it is something that america knows it can provide. having said that ukraine asked for these weapons one year ago. so i think it is probably fair to speculate that it has probably taken about the year for the us to have these talks, to try and discuss with their allies behind closed doors, if it was right to send, justified in sending them. the interesting thing that jake sullivan made a point in his statement, his answers to questions byjournalists, that they had been talking to allies including the signatories to the treaty which banned cluster
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munitions and they had said that they understood. germany has criticised america for the use of this, but they have said also that they believe that america has done everything it can to believe that these munitions they are sending over are safe enough.— these munitions they are sending over are safe enough. thank you very much for that- _ over are safe enough. thank you very much for that. as _ over are safe enough. thank you very much for that. as she _ over are safe enough. thank you very much for that. as she suggests... - that decision is not universally welcomed. the uk, germany and france have banned the use of cluster bombs by their own armed forces — and germany says it opposes sending them to ukraine. nato's secretary general has admitted �*there is a difference among allies' on whether cluster weapons should be sent. it is for individual allies to make decisions on what type of weapons, all allies agree that we should deliver weapons, ammunition to ukraine and we are delivering an unprecedented level of support to ukraine. germany and many other allies are delivering different
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types of ammunitions weapons to ukraine. when it comes to cluster munitions, there is a difference between allies because some have signed the convention on cluster munitions and they do not have cluster munitions so of course there is no cluster munitions to provide to ukraine. 0ther allies have not signed that convention. and many of them, some of them have these munitions. so what are they and why are they so controversial? well each cluster munitions carries large numbers of smaller bomblets, that are dispersed over a wide area, the concern is that those bomblets that fail to explode, then pose a danger to civilians long after a conflict has ended. and for that reason, they're banned in 120 countries. human rights watch says, both russian and ukrainian forces have used cluster munitions already — killing civilians as well as military personnel. let's bring in andrew fox — a retired british army major.
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thank you for being with us give us the militaries perspective on this, why would be attractive to the ukrainian officer on the ground? it ukrainian officer on the ground? it is really in the name, dpicm stands for dual—purpose approved munition and the dual purpose it is talk about is the fact that it can be used both to destroy armoured vehicles as well as kill enemy soldiers. the way these things work are effectively a tube filled with around 650 submissions, the submunitions are high explosive anti—tank routes of the ukrainian officers will be able to use them when they call for fires to destroy armoured vehicles and destroyed bunkers. the casing that the missile comes in, the shell, is pre—botched so as it explodes that send fragments through the air which is supposed to take care of a dismounted person. so you can use these missiles to saturate many
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kilometres squared so in terms of winning the battle, the artillery, it pains me as an infantry offers surgeon says this, artillery is known as the king of battle and it is a good rule of thumb when the artillery were in you will win so that artillery is absolutely critical for ukrainian defensive efforts. t critical for ukrainian defensive efforts. ., , , , efforts. i have seen these first ten in the iraq- _ efforts. i have seen these first ten in the iraq. they _ efforts. i have seen these first ten in the iraq. they were _ efforts. i have seen these first ten in the iraq. they were used - efforts. i have seen these first ten in the iraq. they were used in - efforts. i have seen these first ten l in the iraq. they were used in 2003 in the iraq. they were used in 2003 in the iraq. they were used in 2003 in the danger of course is that the bomblets that do not exclude are quite colourful, children tend to pick them up and if you go to these war zones you see civilians with some quite horrific injuries. their arms or legs have had to be amputated, that is why there is a moral question. americans have made a point today, jake sullivan made it forcefully, where these particular weapons would be deployed, these are areas already heavily mines, where you probably would not find a lot of
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civilians. in you probably would not find a lot of civilians. , ~ ., you probably would not find a lot of civilians. , . ., ., civilians. in the gulf war, and three weeks _ civilians. in the gulf war, and three weeks the _ civilians. in the gulf war, and three weeks the us _ civilians. in the gulf war, and three weeks the us and - civilians. in the gulf war, and three weeks the us and uk i civilians. in the gulf war, and i three weeks the us and uk fired about 30 thousands of the shells which equates to about 1.8—2,000,000 submunitions the real problem with them is that they are hard to disarm apart from detonating them. obviously that is slightly different from a normal mind where you can remove the fuse and that renders a taste of these are actually very difficult to defuse. probably will just have to set the ball. i think it is a fair point, where russian minds go, even if i there were areas around where the russians were in the 80s and to the state there are areas that you just do not go to because they are so heavily minds. on top of that topsoil tends to shift and bosnia has this problem, yesterday made maps back in the day on work maps were relayed but topsoil shifts in there for the minds. so the mining is an
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incredibly challenging and difficult thing and there are potentially arguably using cluster munitions will make thatjob even harder. mas will make that 'ob even harder. was talk about the — will make thatjob even harder. was talk about the conflict as i made the point at the top that there are soldiers on the ground who are asking questions on the counter offensive and whether it will take hold. here there is what they call the class theory. at the counter offensive will build pressure and continue to build pressure over weeks and months and eventually russia's defences will simply shatter. do you think this is the kind of weapon, given that russians are so well dug in after the winter, as is the kind of weapon that might just shift the momentum?- as is the kind of weapon that might just shift the momentum? looking at historical price _ just shift the momentum? looking at historical price that _ just shift the momentum? looking at historical price that you _ just shift the momentum? looking at historical price that you have - just shift the momentum? looking at historical price that you have to - historical price that you have to beat slightly careful on making those assumptions. think about the bombardment of it to the reaper for the battle on the 1st ofjuly, a timely reminder we would assume the artillery and that the germans in the trenches with take but their bouncers were so effective that policy they were able to pop up and
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repelled british attacks —— bunkers. how does that parallel to ukraine? we are trying to artillery here particularly with cluster munitions that are a lot more advanced. when it comes to ukrainian offensive, it is very clear they have a tactic to try grind down the russian line and work out the weak spots and attacked them in force. as it appears. if you can use something like a cluster munitions to inflict attrition on your enemy, on a simple troop number, if you can kill more of their soldiers before you attack obviously that will put you in a better position. so while these munitions are controversial and rightly so particularly used by countries who use by munitions who have that high failure rate, that is to be condemned. whereas if the americans can make guarantees of no more than 2.5% then i can see a case for that. more than 2.5% then i can see a case forthat. it more than 2.5% then i can see a case for that. it is worth say, if you fire 100 of these shells, take an m—
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26 rounds which has a number of submunitions if you fire 100 of those rounds that is 64,400 submunitions. and at a 2.5 rate that is still around 1600 unexploded submunitions. the 2.5 sound small but scaling it up it is thousands of rising —— rounds file that is a huge amount of unexploded munition on the battlefield. president zelensky is tonight in istanbul ahead of an important nato summit in vilnius next week. ahead of that meeting mr zelensky said natos failure to resolve the issue of sweden's accession, which currently held up by turkey — and their failure to agree a path for ukraine's future membership, was a "threat" to the strength of the alliance. the british prime minister phoned president erdogan earlier today to underline the significant benefits of sweden joining nato. number 10 said there has been significant progress made
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in addressing turkey's security concerns, and that swedens accession should be ratified as soon as possible. let's talk to galip dalay from the chatham house mena programme. thank you for being with us. where do you think president erdogan is on theissue do you think president erdogan is on the issue of sweden's accession? right now there is a very high pitch, last—minute diplomacy taking place where turkey�*s prime minister with the chief of intelligence work in brussels, negotiating with ye swedish counterparts. there has been a very large diplomacy taking place with the sovereign countries including the uk so we are seeing a very fast pace diplomacy and that actually increases the hope that
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they may break through. so hopes are high but nevertheless it is hard to tell until the last minute, that was the case of the last year we saw when the question of swedish candidacy was on the table, it was the last minute and it was the us intervention as well that helped to save the day. jake intervention as well that helped to save the day-— save the day. jake sullivan giving no guarantees — save the day. jake sullivan giving no guarantees and _ save the day. jake sullivan giving no guarantees and has _ save the day. jake sullivan giving no guarantees and has press - save the day. jake sullivan giving - no guarantees and has press briefing in the last hour. let's turn that into the relationship between the two men, president zelensky and president erdogan, crucially important because of course president erdogan does have an open door to the russian president, putin, what you think zelensky will want from this visit?— want from this visit? there are several items _ want from this visit? there are several items on _ want from this visit? there are several items on the _ want from this visit? there are several items on the agenda i want from this visit? there are l several items on the agenda one important one is the fate of the grain deal, the grain deal that turkey and the un brokered with russia and ukraine. it is crucial
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that this especially with the security in places like africa and the middle east and now this deal is about to come, expire on the 17th of july. russia is dragging its feet to renew. the ukrainian commitment to renewing, turkey wants us, the un wants us to be renewed, the developing world wants us to be renewed so this grain deal is high on the agenda. apart from this there are several other items including the defence of loss of a corporation between ukraine and turkey. unlike many things it does not only the sale that comes between the two is actually engages in very close defensive loss of corporation that will also be on the agenda. obviously ukraine when security guarantees from greek and for this zelensky will be lobbying, but that will also be on the agendas. turkey will also be on the agendas. turkey will also be on the agendas. turkey will also place a diplomatic row between russia and ukraine but will
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also be on the agenda because the previously turkey coordinator talks between the ukrainian diplomats and the russian diplomat in turkey. president erdogan wants something similar to president erdogan wants something similarto take president erdogan wants something similar to take place again. so that will be a quite heavy agenda between both countries to discuss. the nato summit will be a part of that and the grain deal will be high on the agenda as well. lots the grain deal will be high on the agenda as well.— the grain deal will be high on the agenda as well. lots on the table. we believe _ agenda as well. lots on the table. we believe that _ agenda as well. lots on the table. we believe that they _ agenda as well. lots on the table. we believe that they are. - agenda as well. lots on the table. we believe that they are. thank . agenda as well. lots on the table. i we believe that they are. thank you very much around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. the man convicted of murdering elle edwards has been sentenced to life in prison. conor chapman was told he will serve a minimum of 48 years. elle was an innocent bystander caught up in a gangland shooting outside a pub in the wirral on christmas eve. police have revealed that an eight—year—old girl and a woman in her 40s remain in a critical condition in hospital
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after a landrover crashed through a fence and into a school builiding in wimbledon in south—west london in thursday. an eight—year—old girl died in the crash. police say a 46 year—old woman who was arrested on suspicion of dangerous driving has now been released on bail. caversham school in reading — whose head teacher ruth perry took her own life after inspectors downgraded it to �*inadequate' — has now beenjudged �*good' — following a further inspection. ofsted returned to the school injune and said areas including safeguarding had been improved. ruth perry's sister welcomed the new rating saying it proved that caversham had never been a failing school. you're live with bbc news. some 175 countries have struck a deal today to sharply reduce carbon emissions in the global shipping industry. the agreement, to make shipping net zero "by or around 2050" was reached at a conference of the international maritime organisation, here in london. when it comes to transport,
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shipping is hugely significant. ships carry the overwhelming majority of the world's commercial goods — and they also produce around 3% of greenhouse gases. so how significant could today's announcement be? here's our environment correspondent matt mcgrath. there's lots of criticism but you have to acknowledge that this is a significant political achievement. that 175 countries to agree on a deal to go to net zero by or around 2050. their previous efforts on this were to halve that, to go to 50% of their emission cuts by 2050, so this is a big step forward for them. shipping, as you say, plays a critical role in the world trade. but it's been under the radar when it comes to carbon regulation because it's not part of the paris agreement. it uses very heavy fuel oil, which is very high in carbon, and because ships have complex ownerships, it's not been regulated in terms of carbon. so, i think seeing this as a political achievement, i think it's significant, and to get all of those countries to sign up to it,
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i think that is undoubtedly a win. it will not have escaped the attention of those gathered at that meeting today that we are now regularly shattering, global temperature records. the global average temperature has reached a new high for the third time in seven days. it now stands at 17.23 celsius, that's just over 63 farenheit. yesterday, the eu's climate monitoring service, said june was the hottest on record — beating the previous record set injune 2019. and the effect of that can be seen wherever you look. we have drought in spain, and fierce heat waves in china as well the united states. but nowhere is it more accute than in montevideo. uruguay�*s capital is just days away from running out of drinking water, amid the nation's worst drought in 7a years. the government has told the population of 1.3 million that reserves in the city's reservoirs are at 1.8% of their capacity.
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lets speak now to radley horton. he's a professor of climate at columbia climate school and joins me now from new york. just a quick comment on uruguay, i'm sure you don't know specifically, but i wonder if a shortage of water like that is really a vision of the future that other cities are going to face? i future that other cities are going to face? ~' ., , future that other cities are going to face? ~' ._ i. ., to face? i like the way you frame. any individual— to face? i like the way you frame. any individual case, _ to face? i like the way you frame. any individual case, once - to face? i like the way you frame. any individual case, once again i to face? i like the way you frame. any individual case, once again at one moment in time could have a large role of natural variability but as we take that bigger picture, looking across the globe and over time without question, as the atmosphere warms, it is getting better at sucking motion or out of the land come out of the reservoirs leading to more of those types of dangerous, perilous trucks and another example, as vegetation dries out under warmer temperatures under that same spirit. — out under warmer temperatures under that same spirit, talk— out under warmer temperatures under that same spirit, talk to _ out under warmer temperatures under that same spirit, talk to me _ out under warmer temperatures under that same spirit, talk to me about these global temperatures and the craft that we just put up for the viewers. can you see a pattern? we have some pretty high temperatures
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in the northern hemisphere at the moment. it is not reflective of the bigger problem we are all facing? —— isn't that reflective? the bigger problem we are all facing? -- isn't that reflective?— isn't that reflective? the biggest thini is isn't that reflective? the biggest thing is not _ isn't that reflective? the biggest thing is not just _ isn't that reflective? the biggest thing is not just the _ isn't that reflective? the biggest thing is not just the couple - isn't that reflective? the biggest thing is notjust the couple of. thing is notjust the couple of days, but a longer period of time over the whole globe. the last seven years the warmest on record, this is due to greenhouse gases increasing through our activities, shifting the statistics, making these extreme events like eat with so much more common. this year, you out in that natural variability that is always going to be there due to an el nino starting which pushes average global temperatures up. essentially a bell temperatures up. essentially a hell is ringing where we have this residence between natural variability and that's a effect of more greenhouse gases increasing the average temperature is them both together and you start to experience these unprecedented extremes that were not possible without global warming. were not possible without global warmini. ,, w' , were not possible without global warmini. ,, w , ., were not possible without global warmini. ,, or , ., ., were not possible without global warmini. ,, , ., ., ., warming. quickly, we all have a responsibility. _
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warming. quickly, we all have a responsibility, this _ warming. quickly, we all have a| responsibility, this government, individually, but also sector by sector. wejust individually, but also sector by sector. we just talked individually, but also sector by sector. wejust talked on individually, but also sector by sector. we just talked on shipping. how important is that agreement being made today on global shipping? it is very important. it shows that different entities can come together, that they every wedge needs to contribute to this problem, not to just reduce emissions by adapting to these heat extremes, protecting vulnerable people including the shipping industry. professor of climate at columbia climate school thank you very much plenty more of course on those global temperatures on the bbc website. to stay with us. we will talk about the new film which is about to hit the cinema, barbie, it is causing quite a storm but what does it tell us about the moves within the 20 world to hits on the hello there.
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we had quite a mixed picture for friday, certainly scotland and northern ireland. we started the day with rather grey and cloudy skies, like these. and the rain that we had that started on thursday lasted into the first part of friday morning, bringing about a third of a month's worth of rain in places. so it was really quite a wet spell of weather. even as that cleared, there were just one or two showers that followed through through the afternoon. but, generally, the weather at least did turn brighter. further south, across england, wales, different story. lots of sunshine, both morning and afternoon, and blue sunny skies like these in eastbourne were really commonplace. it was also a hot day across parts of eastern england. that's where we had the highest temperatures, with highs hitting the 30 degree mark in london's stjames's park, but 28 there for hull and for cambridge as well. overnight tonight, we'll keep those dry weather conditions going for the vast majority of the uk. it's a night where it's going to be quite warm, really, with temperatures for northern ireland, england and wales, about 18—20 degrees for our towns and cities. a bit fresher and more comfortable in scotland.
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tomorrow, well, it should be a fine and certainly start to the day, but showers get going quickly for northern ireland, wales and western england. they'll turn thundery through the morning and then into the afternoon those storms start to leap northwards into northern england and scotland as well, with some really torrential downpours possible. now, in the heaviest of those downpours, we could see around 50 millimetres of rain in the space ofjust a few hours. and that could bring some communities flash flooding, but there'll be others at the same time that completely dodge the rain and stay dry,with sunny weather all day. now, the highest temperature is probably again across eastern england, upper 20s here, but 27 or so for northern scotland, where it's going to be a warmer day overall compared with friday. at the wimbledon tennis championships, yes, you might well see a rain delay. there could be some showers around, but they could turn up just about any time. now, saturday, night—time thunderstorms work across northern england and scotland. lots of thunder and lightning in these still with some hefty downpours, and those storms still around for the first part of sunday clearing northwards out of the way.
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we might also see some storms come up from france to clip eastern england. otherwise, a dry and sunny morning with showers developing from the south and west into the afternoon with a few thunderstorms around. overall, temperatures a little bit lower, generally low to mid 20s, and a fresherfeel to
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