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,ofthe missing sub near the wreck of the titanic expands, the coastguard says search efforts are focusing on noises detected under the water. we need noises detected under the water. , need to have hope. but i can't tell you what the noises are, what i can tell you is i think this is the most important point, we are searching with the noises are in that is all we can do at this point. president zelensky sets _ we can do at this point. president zelensky sets out _ we can do at this point. president zelensky sets out plans _ we can do at this point. president zelensky sets out plans to - we can do at this point. president. zelensky sets out plans to transform the future of ukraine and a pitch to world leaders gathering in london to discuss the economic future of the company —— country. welcome back more now on our main use the race against time to find a submersible that has gone missing in the north atlantic. within the last hour the us coast guard has said that they are continuing to search the area where noise was detected on wednesday and that the noise data heard on wednesday is still inconclusive. as we have been hearing in the last
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half—hour rescues are of course trying to locate titan submersible before oxygen supplies runs out. the latest guesstimate on that is 20 hours or so. how are they trying to find the vessel that has been missing for two days now and the vast depths of the atlantic ocean? and what will the challenge have been? here is arc science correspondent. the desperate search for the submersible now has a focus. the banging sounds that were picked up the banging sounds that were picked up at the sea surface by detectors deployed by the rescue teams. the? deployed by the rescue teams. they think that the _ deployed by the rescue teams. tie: think that the sound is deployed by the rescue teams. tie1: think that the sound is coming deployed by the rescue teams. tie11 think that the sound is coming from the sea floor and relatively close to the wreck location. one of the things that this indicates is that the submersible is stationary on the sea floor in this drastically nerves down the possible location. if the down the possible location. if the sub could be _ down the possible location. if the sub could be location _ down the possible location. if the sub could be location it _ down the possible location. if the sub could be location it can - down the possible location. if the sub could be location it can mean a rescue attempt at extraordinary debts. military submarines operated
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by 300 metres. if titan a stack of the depth and was heading two, 3000 800 metres, it will be in pitch darkness. a major concern is that undersea currents could have swept the sub into records which could have trapped it. one of the safety substance on the submersible like titan are weights that could be jettisoned if something could go wrong causing the vessel to flow back up to the surface on its own. that wheat release system may have failed. there is now a french research vessel approaching the site equipped with remotely operating undersea vehicle called victor 6001 of the few vessels in the world that can operate at this extreme death. in fact be deployed in the search and in a possible rescue but even that robot has limits to its capabilities. it that robot has limits to its capabilities.— that robot has limits to its ca abilities. . ., capabilities. it might the tangle or cut or free the _ capabilities. it might the tangle or cut or free the submersible - capabilities. it might the tangle or cut or free the submersible if- capabilities. it might the tangle or cut or free the submersible if it i cut or free the submersible if it were _ cut or free the submersible if it were hooked into the environment of the sea _ were hooked into the environment of the seafloor, but victor will not
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be able — the seafloor, but victor will not be able to — the seafloor, but victor will not be able to help bring, directly getting — be able to help bring, directly getting the submersible to the surface — getting the submersible to the surface. it is not strong enough. this— surface. it is not strong enough. this remotely operated vehicle was used last year to receive a us fighterjet used last year to receive a us fighter jet that used last year to receive a us fighterjet that sank in the south china after the fighter —— pilot safely ejected. the recovery was at a similar depth to the titanic and the school —— vehicle fastened with breaking lines from a support ship. any potential rescue of the titan is likely to be technically complicated. the hope is that the tiny vessel can be located with enough time left to carry it out. let's get more now on the logistics involved. we can speak to a senior lecturer in oceanography at the university of southampton. thank you for coming on the programme. if it is ok i want to put to use some of the points that have come out that press conference at the last half an hour. and see if you can direct us towards the best way of thinking
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about them? the first, the noises here because quite a lot of time was spent on that. there were noises detected yesterday, there were noises affected today and that is directing the search operation. we think the noises did sound like banging sounds, but vessels can make baking sounds to. how should we think about the issue of these noises in the ocean? we think about the issue of these noises in the ocean?- think about the issue of these noises in the ocean? we are told to discuss this — noises in the ocean? we are told to discuss this from _ noises in the ocean? we are told to discuss this from a _ noises in the ocean? we are told to discuss this from a certain - noises in the ocean? we are told to discuss this from a certain extent . discuss this from a certain extent and he sort of dismissed the concept that may be the noises are from animals that is the first thing that can make noises in the ocean. that narrows it down to noises made by humans. that could be coming from ships, a lot of ships are in the area, but also importantly it could be coming from the submersible. if the people in the submersible wanted to attract attention they would look to attract attention they would look to make some sort of noise knowing
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that the transponders on board are not working. they would note that they need to make some sort of regular noise that would not be misinterpreted. so one is hoping that that is what they are picking up. that tells us two things, first that they are still alive that the vessel itself, titan, did not get crushed by the pressure, but also it helps the rescuers focus and to the area. sound travels a long way in the ocean, it can travel hundreds of kilometres. and it also travels very fast, 1500 metres per second. that is five times the speed of sound in the air. so it is a really good technique to detect things. the problem is you cannot pinpoint it very accurately. so it gives a broad search. �* , very accurately. so it gives a broad search. 3 , very accurately. so it gives a broad search. �*, , , ., very accurately. so it gives a broad search. �*, , ,., search. let's pick up on exactly that thought — search. let's pick up on exactly that thought because _ search. let's pick up on exactly - that thought because interestingly, we heard that the search area is
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expanding. which is incredibly frustrating for many to hear but thatis frustrating for many to hear but that is because of things like ocean currents, what are the factors there? ~ , , , , , . there? when this expending i suspect that they are — there? when this expending i suspect that they are probably _ there? when this expending i suspect that they are probably looking - that they are probably looking initially around the titanic. bear initially around the titanic. bear in mind that there are too many and suctions here to make the let's assume that it ran into trouble on the way down. —— assumptions. it would not go straight down it would sort of glide. if you're going in the direction a bit like a glider in the direction a bit like a glider in the state would tend to glide down through the ocean. that means that you cannot assume that it has beneath the support ship. it could have drifted just as it glided down to the sea bed. maybe ten or 20 km. on top of that you are in the area where there are some very strong currents particularly with deep ocean there in those currents will move the vessel with the submersible as it goes down through the water. is that really broadens the search area. now, they will be searching based on the currents of the area knowing the occurrence of the area, but the sound signals may have
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refocused some of that surgery elsewhere so they're are turned by broadening the search area, is probably broadening to encompass the potential source of that sound. that is really clear. _ potential source of that sound. that is really clear, useful. expanding on that again, these are trophies —— rov these unmanned research vehicle, our science correspondent was talking about of course they are brilliant and effective because they move pretty slowly. and that means they take a long time and time is they take a long time and time is the one thing that we do not have here. . , , ., the one thing that we do not have here. . , i. .. ., the one thing that we do not have here. . , i. ., , here. equally you cannot rush in the deep ocean- — here. equally you cannot rush in the deep ocean- he _ here. equally you cannot rush in the deep ocean. he was _ here. equally you cannot rush in the deep ocean. he was talking - here. equally you cannot rush in the deep ocean. he was talking about . here. equally you cannot rush in the i deep ocean. he was talking about the fact that they are not at the capacity to lift the submersible but what they can do is they can attach lines. they have been waiting for the submersibles to come online,
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come into the area. the french one, we do have one in the uk but unfortunately is a long way away. bearin unfortunately is a long way away. bear in mind these things are huge. they weigh a lot, you cannotjust sort of pop them in an aircraft and then dump them in the ocean. you have to send them by ship. they take a long time to move around the world. 1 , a long time to move around the world. , , ,., a long time to move around the world. , , ,, a long time to move around the world.�* , y., 4' ., a long time to move around the world. , i. ~ ., . world. just so you know we are seeinu world. just so you know we are seeing pictures _ world. just so you know we are seeing pictures of— world. just so you know we are seeing pictures of one - world. just so you know we are seeing pictures of one of - world. just so you know we are seeing pictures of one of them | world. just so you know we are - seeing pictures of one of them just there as you were talking. it lines up there as you were talking. it lines up perfectly illustrating exactly what you were talking about. titers; what you were talking about. very luc that what you were talking about. very lucky that the _ what you were talking about. very lucky that the french _ what you were talking about. - lucky that the french one was in the region. and on its research special and it is notjust about the rop it is about the support mechanism function on top you need to notjust type the rop but you need to have ten km of cable to put it on the side. —— rov. the thing is if it can get a line onto the submersible then it can bring that line to the surface and then transfer that onto one of the lifting ships.— one of the lifting ships. when you are talkin: one of the lifting ships. when you are talking about _ one of the lifting ships. when you
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are talking about a _ one of the lifting ships. when you are talking about a line _ one of the lifting ships. when you are talking about a line here, - one of the lifting ships. when you are talking about a line here, justj are talking about a line here, just to be absolutely clear, this is a rope or made of whatever. to physically attach it to the missing sub, to try and then drag it back to the surface?— the surface? rovs today have amazing manipulators — the surface? rovs today have amazing manipulators and _ the surface? rovs today have amazing manipulators and can _ the surface? rovs today have amazing manipulators and can carry _ the surface? rovs today have amazing manipulators and can carry a _ the surface? rovs today have amazing manipulators and can carry a very - manipulators and can carry a very delicate detailed movements sort of clipping a line onto the rov is straightforward. they talked about the fact that it has been trapped. there are questions on how has it been caught up in netting or wreckage in which case rov may be able to help sort of free at and allow it to the surface. there are lots of scenarios and it is speculation, until the connection located, until they can actually see what is wrong with it we note that she will not know what the rov can do until they get down and find the submersible. so we are hoping that that happens and we are hoping it
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happens the next 211 hours. i think he did downplay perhaps the fact that time is ticking. it still is very much a rescue mission and that is important to say. it is search and rescue. it is important to keep that in mind because that keeps the momentum going, keeps the adrenaline going to save his people who at the moment some are on the sea floor. doctor, that context was very fascinating, thank you for coming onto the programme and talking us through it. just a reminder. if you missed it in the last half hour or so, we did get an update from the us coast guard. was take a listen. again this is an incredibly complex search operation requiring both surface and subsurface elements and our unified approach is critical. the location of the search, 900 miles east of cape cod, 400 miles south east of st. john's makes it exceptionally difficult to mobilise large amount of equipment quickly. in spite of those challenges, we
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have been able to provide continuous air and surface assets as well as additional rov capability to search below the surface. we currently have five surface assets searching for titan but we expect tenants total surface assets to appear within the next hours. there are two rov actively searching and several are in route and will abide by tomorrow morning. we received incredible support with aviation assets from our coastguard air station in elizabeth city, the air national guard and canadian armed forces. today there are two back—to—back p3 flights one ongoing now as i speak totalling 14 hours of continuous unseen coverage and to c—130 fights also ongoing now throughout the day and into the evening. yesterday, a canadian p3 detected underwater noises in the search area as a result, rov operations were relocated in an attempt to explore
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the origin of the noises. although the origin of the noises. although the rov searches have yielded negative results they continue. additionally, the data from the p3 aircraft has been shared with our us navy experts for further analysis. which will be considered in future search plan. the surface search is now approximately two times the size of connecticut and the subsurface search is up to two and half miles deep. exponentially expanding the size of the search area. we also have to factor in the ever changing weather conditions, currents and see states that expand the search area every hour. there is an enormous complexity associated with this case due to the location being so offshore, so far offshore and the coordination between multiple agencies and nations. we greatly appreciate the outpouring of support and offers to provide additional equipment, the unified command continues to prioritise assets and resources in order to provide best capability and in the most timely manner. this includes weighing multiple factors to identify the
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most effective resources available to the response operation. with careful consideration to timeliness of equipment arriving on scene useless ability to deliver to the search area, over the past 48 hours we have incredible unity of effort, mobilise implement a tremendous amount of expertise and response capability in addition to the ships and aircraft previously mentioned we dispatched to subject matter experts from us experts who will serve a search coordinators unseen for underwater search operations. so i have been stressing unity of effort a lot and that is because it is absolute critical to this conflict operation. again, our thoughts and prayers are with the crew of titan and their loved ones. we will continue to work as hard and as quickly as possible in an effort to look at them.— quickly as possible in an effort to look at them. that was the update 'ust the look at them. that was the update just the last _ look at them. that was the update just the last half _ look at them. that was the update just the last half hour— look at them. that was the update just the last half hour or _ look at them. that was the update just the last half hour or so. - look at them. that was the update just the last half hour or so. you i just the last half hour or so. you can speak now to the rear admiral retired from the royal navy and went
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to work for a firm called ocean infinity which found the wreckage of the argentine submarine in 2017, a year after disappeared. thank you for coming onto the programme. first, i went to get your thoughts, that the leaders of state —— update we were listening to from the us coast guard is there anything that you can read into that? i coast guard is there anything that you can read into that?— coast guard is there anything that you can read into that? i think the first thing is _ you can read into that? i think the first thing is i _ you can read into that? i think the first thing is i am _ you can read into that? i think the first thing is i am a _ you can read into that? i think the first thing is i am a professional . first thing is i am a professional mariner, mariners immediately understand the gravity of the situation like this. and the difficulty of the environment in which the situation has occurred. there is an immediate surge of pride hearing professional activity to carry out the much—needed search so i thought was an excellent summary. a lot of technical terms and that which people may not fully understand. what the captain was saying is that they have some aircraft with some very sophisticated sensors and full of highly trained personnel, very
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capable in acoustic and underwater surveillance. so they are searching in the water column and their searching the surface. they have brought in five surface ships which are patrolling, they will be searching visually and searching acoustically and they have also brought in the heavy equipment, the rov which had just been so aptly described. so this is no mean achievement in such a short period of time and it reflects the importance of the timeline. what you are seeing is a very well executed at very short notice surface and some water, some water column sea bed search. some water, some water column sea bed search-— bed search. many people will be encouraged _ bed search. many people will be encouraged if _ bed search. many people will be encouraged if your _ bed search. many people will be encouraged if your assessment l bed search. many people will be. encouraged if your assessment of that and pleased to hear it. just to go back to your experiences and what were the challenges that stood out for you and your case and also i suppose what led to the success? in
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suppose what led to the success? in my case in ocean infinity's as we were searching for a sub sunk known to be lost beforehand. so we were searching on difficult sea bed, not as difficult as this one, it was much shallower, but nonetheless it was a difficult rocky sea bed and we were searching for a very small object that had imploded and broken into several components. this object is a very small object, it looks big on its mother ship, it is a very, very small in relation to the ocean and the sea bed. and it is particularly small in relation to the debris field but is that of the titanic. on the plus side, there is a very well surveyed to see that around to the stefanik, it is well—known now. all of the objects associated with the titanic are well known, but it is a very, very long way down in the water column. i am not going to speculate where the submersible is, all i will say is
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that the starting point is a very carefully conducted surface and subsurface search and that is what you are hearing.— subsurface search and that is what you are hearing. that's exactly what the emphasis _ you are hearing. that's exactly what the emphasis was. _ you are hearing. that's exactly what the emphasis was. especially - you are hearing. that's exactly what the emphasis was. especially from i the emphasis was. especially from the emphasis was. especially from the acoustic expert is that he had full confidence given his expertise that these acoustic analysts were interpreting these banging noises and crucially he was saying that the tight chain of command that that information and analysis was going to be right people and that was directing the search vessels under the water to try and get to the right place. the water to try and get to the right place-— the water to try and get to the riaht lace. , , . . right place. yes. so the sea and the water column _ right place. yes. so the sea and the water column are _ right place. yes. so the sea and the water column are very _ right place. yes. so the sea and the water column are very noisy - right place. yes. so the sea and the water column are very noisy place. | water column are very noisy place. and all sorts of sounds can be misconstrued. there are a lot of acoustic experts, p3 are full of acoustic experts, p3 are full of
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acoustic experts, p3 are full of acoustic experts, the surface ships have experts and you are the captain referred to bringing in experts from some very sophisticated us navy divisions as possible for searching for objects underwater. they are capable of detecting some of the most discrete sound. but the issue is how you localise. you have a sound, you have to investigate, and when you have investigated and decide whether or not it is likely to be the contact that you were searching for and if it does not, if you decide there is a low probability of that, you then start searching a different area. bearing mind that they will have been given access to all of the plans for this dive, but the submersible would do when it was around the vicinity of the titanic, how it would get down there and how it would get back. and you heard simon voxel talk about the nature of the environment talk about the nature of the tides in all of that so there will be constant planning and predicting going on around numerous scenarios about
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where this vessel is and that is why you will see, expansion and contraction of the search as different indications occur at that suggest where the vessel might be. rear admiral, we appreciate your time and expertise, thank you for coming onto the programme. around the world and across the uk this is bbc news. bbc news bringing you different stories from across the uk. the county durham community of stand him replete with pubs caf s and shops, but what this town no longer how is is a bank. barclays was the last branch open here until it closed in april. best meet local people and businesses very angry. there's a lot of people still don't have online banking. like myself, i don't. . , have online banking. like myself, i don't. , don't. barclays is the closure was a resonse don't. barclays is the closure was a response to — don't. barclays is the closure was a response to changing _ don't. barclays is the closure was a response to changing customer - response to changing customer behaviour with fewer people relying on the branch, more banking online. so with many other banks closed or
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now. to? there a lot in there, a lot of questions _ now. to? there a lot in there, a lot of questions clearly _ now. to? there a lot in there, a lot of questions clearly about - now. to? there a lot in there, a lot of questions clearly about the - of questions clearly about the noises that the coastguard revealed that they had picked up by the sonar technology. significantly, what they are saying is that they heard these noises yesterday and this morning as well. that is the first time we heard that detail in terms of the timeline. they are being very clear, that they do not know where these noises come from exactly. they do not know the source or yet the significance. they are handing over this data to specialists who will examine if there are any patterns in there, but clearly it has become, and they are saying this, the focus in all of the search. so we already knew that for example, they are taking these remotely operated vehicles that dive into the water, unmanned, and moving them into this place where these noises were heard. one specialist dared to describe it as banging. of course there has been some speculation that put the men on
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the sub he actually trying to routinely bang on the side of the vessel in a way to alert the people that are looking for them. we really don't know that yet. but it has become a focus for the search. so a lot of questions about that and the other broad points that were made in terms of the search, really expanding both in size and in terms of resources well. fitter; expanding both in size and in terms of resources well.— of resources well. stay right there. i will of resources well. stay right there. i will come — of resources well. stay right there. i will come right _ of resources well. stay right there. i will come right back _ of resources well. stay right there. i will come right back to _ of resources well. stay right there. i will come right back to you, - of resources well. stay right there. i will come right back to you, but l of resources well. stay right there. i will come right back to you, but i | i will come right back to you, but i want to take a quick look at where you are in relation to the search and where everything is taking place. take a look at this map quickly. coming back to you in a few seconds' time. you can see just there can see the route out and that is the wreckage of the titanic of course but the sub was going down to view. you can see it is pretty far away and those conditions are pretty difficult in any circumstance. what we heard, jess, in this difficult in any circumstance. what we heard, jess, in this update difficult in any circumstance. what we heard, jess, in this update was actually at the search area is
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increasing. because of tides and currents and wind and responding to different noises of course. it is not a case of, something an object just goes straight down to the bottom of the ocean and then you just had straight down from there. things tripped which of course massively increases the search area. reset it's expanding into a's outwards and downwards as well and something they seem very keen to get on—site. is seem very keen to get on—site. if» this french that has particular deep—sea capabilities in order to be able to actually go down, potentially, all the way to the sea bed, we are told that it does have that capacity. so that vessel heading towards the search site at the moment. then outwards as well, what they have also been doing is yes there is the underwater search, but there is the search going on on the skies as well. so what they are singing around the clock they are sending aeroplanes from the us and
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canada to scour the searches —— a surface of the water in case there are any sign that the vessel may have re—emerged. there were some discussion in the press conference about an object that may have been seen but they made it pretty clear that actually they did not think it was related to the search for the titan submersible. the point to keep making about whether it is noises that have been heard in the ocean, whether it is debris or the water, it is a complicated search site. the ocean can be a noisy place and there is plenty of debris as well. he will add to that, changeable weather conditions and as well the sheer remoteness of this location. hundreds of miles from where we are in, over400 miles off hundreds of miles from where we are in, over 400 miles off the coast of newfoundland, that's what they're dealing with it i think that's why they are sending more vessels at least partly to the area so that they can have more ships on as we enter these crucial hours because of course remember, we heard earlier from the man who has been leading this operation from here in boston,
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he said that at the moment there is an estimate of 20 hours of auction list —— oxygen left on that sub. thank you for bringing us the latest from boston. iwill thank you for bringing us the latest from boston. i will remind you that this is the object at the centre of the search. we will show you pictures of the sub itself. this is now with the search has about 20 hours or so left to try and locate. five people on board, for adults and one teenager. there have been noises were heard, no confirmation if those noises are coming from the sub but the hope is that they are and they are searching in the area where those noises are coming from. this is bbc news. hello then. for most of us, it's been another warm, sunnyjune day. take a look at godalming.
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earlier on, you can see a beautiful summer solstice story, but there have been some showers around and some of them fairly persistent, some running through glastonbury, some through wales, up into lincolnshire and others across eastern scotland. across eastern scotland. just take a look at aberdeen just take a look at aberdeen just a few hours ago, just a few hours ago, threatening looking skies. you knew what was heading in your direction, but most those showers will tend to fade away as we go through the evening and overnight, a little bit of fair weather cloud still the risk of an isolated shower from that cloud, maybe a bit misty and murky towards dawn. it's going to be a mild start with those temperatures holding up, perhaps just dipping into single figures in eastern scotland. so starting off tomorrow morning, lots of sunshine from the word go. but as we go through the afternoon, there's yet again a risk of some showers. now, some of those showers heavy, possibly with some hail and some thunder and the distribution of those showers across eastern england down into east anglia. top temperatures, though, in the sunshine at around 28
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degrees, a little bit fresher. further north, we're looking at 18 to 22, but it bodes well for glastonbury. take a look at this. yes, almost a dry weekend, a little bit more humidity, potentially sparking off risk of a shower as we go into sunday. actually, as we move out of thursday's weather, this high pressure will dominate the story across england and wales, but weather fronts pushing into the far northwest will gradually bring some wetter and windier weather, and it will turn more and settle with some heavier rain. much needed rain pushing its way through scotland and northern england for a time, central and southern parts of england and wales will stay dry, settled and relatively sunny, with a high of 25 degrees by friday. we still keep that high. we still keep the warmth across central and southern england and wales, but low pressure sitting out into the northwest will continue to throw these weather fronts in and at times bring outbreaks of rain and some of it quite heavy as well,
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drifting its way steadily eastwards. so we have got some subtle changes as we move into the weekend. slightly wetter conditions further north and west, warm and humid to the south.
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live from london. this is bbc news. the search for a missing sub near the wreck of the titanic expands. the coastguard says search efforts
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are focusing on noises detected under the water.

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