of history is forgotten. that's all harold. yet in spain, stating post them these here was enshrined in law. diminishing the plight of countless victims of frank coast. 36, he had to take the shape with a group of surviving. it says launched an international law suit hoping to bring those accountable to justice and forced the country to acknowledge its fascist bost . the silence of others witness on al jazeera. around wanting to israel from the us president joe biden says he will hold some supplies of israel invades restaurant for this is intended to deflect, rising domestic pressure against his strategy on the war and gaza. and will it be more to stop as well as assaults on rough? this is inside store, the

kind of walk into the program on the phone for the 1st time since, as well as war on guns. it began and i'll tell you. but joe biden has admitted the american weapons have been used to kill civilians, and he's president of stop supplying as we should be. part of the united states is f as to secure israel. the comments are the strongest warning yet by the us president over potential ground invasion. a rough or by is riley forces. more than one and a half 1000000 palestinians have taken shelter there off to fleeing from northern gaza. despite consistent and vocal us opposition is around, has continued bombing the stuff in the city. and now the space palestinians are being ordered to leave. rafa protests are being held across the american universities against the gods. the world is killed nearly 35000 people, and some democrats have been pressuring biden to do more to stop as rails of violence. so is biden's warnings as well and attempt to calm down and grow home as

he seeks and all the time and office in 6 months time. oh will he indeed weak the tool and take tough of action against the benjamin netanyahu? government looks full this on all the issues with the i guess 1st this report by culture lopez told a young are forced to flee yet again, this family has nowhere to go. they are among thousands of palestinians leading areas and rough up as israel plants, a full scale attack. once a city of refuge from more than 1500000 people. it's now a target, a little bit ran on the last. they are bombarding us, threatening us, and telling us to leave. but we have nowhere else to go. personally, i have no one to turn to the house. my mother is dead when i have no one else. the us is adding unprecedented pressure to stop and assault. having once pledged unconditional support for israel presidential bite and has value to stop giving

israel weapons, if it invades rougher civilians have been killed in casa as a consequence of us bombs, and other ways in which they go after populations. i made it clear that if i go into rafa, i haven't gone on roughly yet. going a rougher. i'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with ralph. good, more to move is seen by many as a warning because of the defense secretary lloyd austin confirmed washington has already paused a shipment of weapons. israel should launch a major attack in or off or without accounting for and protecting the civilians that are in that battle. space the us is by far, israel's a big a supplier of weapons with congress last month approving $26000000000.00 and extra funding. even so biting is getting pushed back from members of his own party

and months ahead of the presidential election. he's also being criticized by students whose stage protest against funding the war. we will not stop and defending the students until there is an immediate permanent seed, sorry, that includes complete withdraw. it is really forces from the a and the release of all hostages. the under pressure at home and abroad is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu says, an assault on or off or is needed to dispute thousands of them off fighters. a fight he's previously said will move forward with without the ceasefire deal. and with or without support from allies who will have to be sure we have already proven in the previous release of hostages, that military pressure on how much it is necessary. now 7 months into the war on gaza, palestinians and russell wait to see if heightened political pressure on israel will have an effect on the ground, katia a little bit so that again,

i will do 0 for insights. story the. okay, let's bring it i guess scott lucas is a professor of international politics with university college dublin's clinton institute. he's with us from week low in island, in amman to heidi and was stuff as a senior policy on our list with the n g o international crisis group. she joins us from amman. i met i am, a clients of political science professor. i bought a long university who's with us from west jerusalem at 51. welcome to well, 3 of you. thank you very much for your time met him. i wonder if i can start with you 35000 people dead men, women, and children. what's may motivated joe biden to issue these threats now, as opposed to previously when it could have saved many more lives. a very good question. i am watching the seeing an interview i expected today. this question to be a follow up by the presenter,

but she said not to make it. why no, isn't it too late? but it's better. no, they never did better late than never. so it saves that the american support for his red is called they should the i like what we have salt air it's, i'm condition them all the statements they coming from. but i did stay so this, right. so i think it's a condition that simple it, this call dish, and that it, this condition with the, if they say the reason the american fetal or the issue is one of the operations, i thought there is another feed though, well, destroyed the expense, eh, eh, for is why the ex escalation of the war into north and may be very guns when a co rich european countries to recognize the state of the spine and

may be late. their very top was brought to you and security council for a accepted exhibit. but the state of the stand is a poor member, is a way to use our, the expected wave. we should keep in mind. these can be the next steps that by then we can use, again, a split the neo but the out is lucky to keep up. let me take this question to 2 scouts because the met him is basically imply that but a sooner than later um buttons, exact words were quote, it would be wrong to send military support to is right, right now, can we spell out scott so that there was no doubt what america's fee is all surrounding israel is pushed into rafa. given the information that was pretty much already started, thousands of people have been killed as strikes are on the way to divide the

ministrations doing in the specific case. a proffer is there drawing a distinction between those ongoing is riley air strikes, which as you mention are causing a couple of dozen categories each day in rafa and the ground of salt. a fire when israel earlier this week, carried out another series of deadly assaults on or off from here. and what we thought of ground today, she might be on an american official, immediately went to the media and said, all these weren't significant military operations. in other words, we weren't going to ask because of these bible specific words when he, you know, issued, supposedly the red line is a major ground assault. so in other words, israel continues with the present operations but stopped short of what would be an invasion of russell,

where you have those 1400000 people who are at risk. then the americans will not take action further action terms, especially on military aid. the question is, of course, does better than at yahoo and perhaps even more importantly, defenseless for your lot. no. the remember the origin. do they want to proceed with that ground evasion. even though you have the risk of sharply increasing civilian casualties and the increasing the risk that the by the ministration will find where be forced to take a step regarding the mattresses. the honey, not only did bobby, didn't make the threat of withdrawing military support, but he also made a very, very important comments as well. 90 that american shipments of weapons have been used by israel to kill civilians in gauze, and that's quite an admission. he seems to be referring to those high payload musicians, munitions, namely 2000 pound bomb shipments of which we know were bound last week. one says this admission this acknowledgement, say to you, i mean in some ways, yes,

it is in a significant trend, but again, this is just more public clustering from the us administration and it's just coming against the backdrop of the, on the growing public sense at home the fact that on, you know, you have to visions with any guidance on how to you, this is coming against a do you mean electoral campaign for presidential elections in the us? but more importantly, the us, the standing internationally has seen a come see, you know, down tightest. i mean, we can talk about how is all it is, is perceived as an international prior. but the fact that the us so far has affected as well. and it's on so long as it hasn't been lost on international audiences either. and not to mention about that. also, on the 7th of may, just recently, we saw the biggest, i guess differently, to cover the u. s. as in henry uh, in defense of israel, which is about how must have been the sole obstacle to a ceasefire, which from us did accept those times. it was as well that rejected it. i went ahead

with its invasion reference, and in that time, yes, we may see things like big statements obviously, if i could find is already made these thoughts as far as opposed to, to wait for it to be delayed, to your, to your object sports. but that doesn't take away from the fact that the us has supplied israel consistently since the 7th of october, which huge amounts of stuff. how's a weapons? does that, that just last month we saw the us provide it with, with another supplemental aid package. again, it's going to be spearheaded today's room and watching. so it's pretty isn't all can use and i'm not in the nonsense, right. talking about tropes in the ocean. let's look into a little bit more detail. let us ministry funding to israel, which has been increased since the beginning of the war and gaza. president biden signed a $15000000000.00 war assistance package last month. that's over and above the $38000000000.00 ministry aid commitment across 10 years as part of an agreement signed back in 2016. as this type of the 70s to us as deliberate. 5th,

the shipments of arms more than a $130.00 cargo planes loaded with weapons to israel without him. what kind of weapons are we talking about the us now? whole thing of these offensive, or defensive weapons, what levels of support would be, would choose would, for instance, israel's, i'm don't be affected as far as i understand this weapons can l. o is ray of 8. o fools to boom. the colors and above the houses. civilian houses, civic civilian institutions, under which there are times this was made in the war. they've got the door fed center got a got a street already by his room. detail souls is a pretty fair as well. trump air, all the toners stand off and think what's on the ground. it's on the

other ground uh to get the risk of a soldier. this is where the soldiers so we felt that these boards is rent controlled to be with her boss fish taking shelter of the ground in the essays with the seals. so it's very, very clear that the operation is blocked off that, that the general itself is driven golf. is it possible with this a bar go? all right, i'm default. so let me throw this to you. does this now mean that we could see, is there a, the forces acting even more indiscriminately, whether operation and rough, or if that's what my absolutely want to push on with. the fact here is just to follow up on your previous question. the thought about, you know, where we are, you know, that the us assistance is being held up to israel,

at least temporarily. you know, we're talking about 2000 pound bonds. we're talking about $500.00 terminals, the types of bonds as a re destruction of a civilian areas, for example, in the initial stages of the assault know their jobs. so we're talking about, we're told jaden ups which converts supposedly and got involved to try that. but so these are office of the weapons. the issue here, however, is as an american official already now, is that the israel already passed. and all of these weapons that had supplied by the united states to go into the office, it wants to. now for that reason, i'd say, you know, the cold hard fact here is that the initiative is still not with washington. the initiative is still with the as relative workshop. the americans have been trying to do the international community, have been trying for months to try to influence the or cabinet in particular with talks with the father members, the work cabinet besides benjamin netanyahu. your launch,

the defense minister pen against the former head of the shortly military. and i can tell you at this point whether or not the ground a visual go ahead because the calculations will be made down on the basis of what you asked has done. but on the basis of those really don't stick your pin try, you might just goes to school, you mentioned to the psycho j mission missiles used to convert and guide to bottom . so she's saying to position weapons, i bring this up because one can ask that member has tweeted, her name is totally got live saying that so the country should simply revert to using quote, imprecise missiles to quote, flats and 10 buildings. i mean, even simulation, there is give us the weapons that will kill who we want. well, i mean that tons of ultimatum, this is an ultimatum, which is just coming from the hard. right. and israel including the inside the drawer such as minister, been who's there? uh, it's actually come from the saw because remember what he said to ship this to the political dimension as well. you know, if you don't agree to cease fire,

we're going to go and drop. we're going to go ahead and effectively watch every wow . then, of course, with, i'm not really sure the degree to cease fire if the position of all right, put up or shot what the username is immediately do. this project to mazda is acceptance of the cease fire and leave us with the open question we have right now . there are diversity of voices, and if you have those points that you can pick up from people who are ready to de populate garza, well, no interest is a very large whatsoever. but i think we're all set to recognize that there are a lot of is really to our concern about the direction of this war station. some of them are concerned about the fact that in the a small there is no sign of in any day, no side of certainly a resolution level. well, a trial. there are some are concerned because of course we've got the 130 hostages and the bodies of hostages to match the holes. and we have some who are generally not concerned about the fact that there's more isn't on jo store. and i think the

more that we recognize that diversity, okay, and, and it's really relevant. just simply say it is inevitable that the hard right is going to lead yahoo down the path into the destruction. bravo. i think, you know, it's a better way of appreciating where things might go. i realized one thing, or i think the key determiner right here is you know, his personal position because of the day that there's a cease fire and gust his political future is probably also becomes there will be early elections and the day that there is a speech for and johnson is legal future will be in jeopardy because of the possibilities you'll be on trial on broadway charges. and i think that might be the price in such a while there be an attack on roster. sure. but not him. so what we're looking at is either way, the beginning of the end for benjamin dustin, yahoo, how much genuine concern just to add to what scott said, is that in israel about the withdrawal of military supplies or position liter, y'all are please let the it is blaming nothing y'all who's quote failed management for biden's new stance. meanwhile, the far right extreme, right? national security minister, it's my bank, give me via tweeting that quote from us,

loves bite. and what are these comments say about the views and israel? sadly. and then very sad to say that that the issue in the mainstream and is much me a worried about his read america relations, the lives of people in guys and very set to say that. but this, this is the way i see the guy in the period statements. they are all read about the future relation. so the presence relations between israel and the american, not the ministration and this mores they, for the public opinion, much, much more than the war and gossip different fast. the majority of these really support going to offer it for the americans are not

objective. are okay with the american objection. it may be, there is a shift in public opinion in frame for off at the very base really public is not informed enough on what was what was how, what was suggested by c, i a director at the accept the, the best buy from us. but the information is, is that it's, it's wrong, it's really bad stream it to this media information channels. they don't say what was exactly suggested. and what is the price? that is what i should pay in order to get to beckett's of digits, right? let's move this conversation to a bit further on and, and focus on it what, how all of this plays out in the united states. because given the growing opposition to the war in the us and given the, you know, the elephant in the room,

the growing blooming attention that's being focused on the full coming presidential election. how long do we think the honey joe biden has before he desperately needs to see results? i. e. and then to this conflict before it starts to post serious political damage to biden's future. i think it's already come to that stage now in terms of the way that we seem public opinion in the us time, completely against, despite in administration. you know, where you've seen the majority of public opinion support. does the sorry cost in the network at the moment and in terms of what's going on. so i think we've already reached that stage, but i think more critically, the question is, how much impunity the us is going on? that isn't okay, wait a minute. we can have this frustrating as much as we want to divide in the ministration, but ultimately binder along with others, certain senior us officials and his administration keeping the structures they have continuous eastern. so something come out of a i embraced israel,

i have hoped to need a better what has been happening. and despite the original lines, despite the golf house that we have seen, which constant shift by the way, israel now so well that it can continue to do what it wants with something, impunity, it knows full well that it can get away with, with whatever it wants it can get away pushing the message, right, lines, and even even as brightens domestic support. i can do sort continues on the decline . it already is. right. uh scott: uh, honey made a interesting point that these red lines just seemed to be so movable. they've cease to have any meaning whatsoever. how come though, in the context of this decision, by, by that how kind of he and the democrats fend off republican criticism, for instance, from the likes of senior republicans, such as mitch mcconnell, who a framing biden's, threat to reduce arms supplies is quote, aging hum, us sometimes in politics you have got

a difficult choice between doing what is politically expedient for domestic reasons and doing the right moral and ethical entity practical say, when it comes to what is happening to your problem, there is no doubt that as a by the administration takes a firm, so against israel, that even we have like, criticized by republicans by trumpets. indeed donald trump has taken a break from the trial in new york to tweet this morning about joe biden. and she just mentioned be a friend from austin, a support terrace. but you have a question for the by the ministration, which is on one hand, if you love this, you know, you will be criticized if you draw a line with these writers after they have defied previous objections to a ground defensive in normal josslyn objections to expanding the pencils across all dresser objections to their attacks on a workers you will be

a time for that. but on the other hand, if you let this dried on, if you give is real estate for what is it selectively open ended war, enter the summer on enter the are, you will continue to see in a row version of your support from those who might, might normally support you on domestic issues in an election year as we're saying in the protest across america. yeah, let's talk about the come back to the. yeah, let's talk about those protests if we have a that's a honda. of course. they all the backdrop to all of these decisions being made by washington. does this move by, by and do you think goes some way in vindicating those protest as again, i think the majority, yes, it does speak to to what these protestors ultimately. i trying to advocate for, but again, that really don't say much if it's not followed up by serious practical steps. and by that when you're serious cost on israel, you know, is always to know that will be consequences for its actions if it needs to go

beyond just the metrics here. and i, i don't think again, i don't think that is going to be lost on these purchases, especially considering the way that we seen public funds are probably a protests that have been severely calmed down upon. i mean, the, these purchased, these students have been met with insane amounts of police brutality. you know, i mean, it's, it's absolutely shocking, i think. and if anything it's, it's actually ended up from the adverse effects of ashburn, when in a more, you know, global is my. but again, unless she bought it with any serious action, i don't think that's going to be lost in the furthest of. yeah, honey, it's a very powerful sense of pessimism about the meaning of this move by biting malcolm . i wonder if i can ask you this. if we're going to say of cause any results from any of these threats to comp military aid, we may well see them in the way in which negotiations play out in egypt and car ro, mazda. so we know is signed up to a proposal including an exchange of captives for soldiers and in

a pub opponent and to hostilities as well as we know has not come to us. do anything to put its foot down further than just the threat to cup military aid to force a deal? yeah, it is a us can go much beyond what the embargo on bobs um that it stated us can look feet though. even the, the, you'll have to secure with the call. so they're participating in a request to be a former member of the state to buy this thing to become a 4 member the u. n. a us cannot cartridge or gave green light to where you are big countries to recognize the state of palestine the the, the us can go much further publicly. but look just the briefing.

newark, doug's correspondence about its relations a bit by the relationships with bethany all but makes statements to explain this really public opinion. what they think about them, you know, and writing needs the united states. is that the neo or jewel, by the right. let me off this, i think probably our last question here to, to score because might not come raised to an interesting point island where you are now i understand is going to be one country together with spain and stuff back here that his point is to recognize the state of palestine is not leave a necessary to be pulled at the moment in order to show is ro, water growing chorus of countries around the world. think of this situation. i think it's a necessary moral and political step because until you recognize the state of palestinians, palestine,

how can you ever expect palestinians have the respect uh to have the empowerment that they will be listened to and acknowledge otherwise, they're just the state was people i think the implication of this is the previous question, this should the us coming in behind the recognition of the state of palestine. absolutely. will that be enough to stop the minute is really assault or offer any open ended more? no united states, if it was serious stops, i mean really serious process is putting pressure on in terms of getting. and so as far what 1st of all make clear that it has no objections to a cease fire, even if the israelis object to it. secondly, the americans would stay in the side of the lease and hopefully support a distance through the us and indeed through the international criminal port. the whole israel channel, if it does to tell you this for, and certainly united states was finally ready to clear watson for all that the

israelis do not have a veto over the future of the palace, things while they're being doesn't were in the west. uh okay. okay, scott lucas, to her name was stuff or management klein. it is being a pleasure to speak to all 3 of you here on inside story many thanks for your time and thank you. of course for watching you can see the program again. any time by visiting our website out to 0 and don't com for further discussion, go to a facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. you can also join the conversation on x. i'll handle is asia inside story. i mean the focus on the whole team here. it's bye for now. the a 106 kilometers, stretch of remote and powerless jungle. the only land route to south america for

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