it is us precedent, you will find the right to stand with this real with no red line, as long as us support continues. is there anything that can stop is real, solve on concept, from going on in? definitely a quizzical look at us politics. the bottom line, we don't simply focus on the politics of the conflict, is the human suffering that the reports are pretty brave, bullets and bombs. and we always include the views from all sides. is why we acts with theory as the united nations security council votes for an immediate cease fire and gaza, the us up stains and didn't use it's vito. what does the resolution mean for the policy in space? well, and it's on ice. this is inside, sorry. the hello welcome to the program. i am hush him out of bottle. i'll send you the 6

months of his raz genocide, the savage rate in gaza with mold the 100000 policy. is that all in just the step made which has paralyzed, united nations security council has finally been broken. the last up, stained not to use its veto to help it's online as well. the motion passed pools for the immediate seized by the release of all captives housing. gaza is why i was left isolated the un and reacted with few a. why the policy them boss of the spoken emotionally above the emotion passing from 1948 to one to 24. we have endorsed. we have set of i we have is it acted only to face this? once again? life must be bad and this must be bad and because

freedom, i must prepared it, but it's nice. all members of the council, all members should have voted against this shameful resolution. this council is rarely blood is cheap. this is a travesty. and i'm disgusted. but they also have the emotion was bossed in new york and gaza. it was business as usual, more as a riley, a task more policy and victims kills with weapons supplied mostly by the us and western online is why i would tele breaks you and resolutions on palestine and wasted no time in defining the latest one. let's bring it out panel in the genuine capital on non deanna to to is a palace to the lawyer legal. i noticed on the former advise us of the by this time

the, the ration organization is talk home is with and give you love a columnist for these rather use paypal hot. it's is also an offer and we're not of the you are mad generally a surprise. and chris hedges is a new okay, is a former middle east butte, chief for the new york times a police. the price went up and all settled. war is the greatest evil. welcome to the program, deanna. i'm interested in knowing what is happening a in the palestinian occupied territories. what's the feeling that do they see the resolution as a breakthrough or just a symbolic victory? and it's beau's. look, it's important to keep in mind that there's that nobody, nothing has been able to stop israel for this near 6 months of attacking the attack on the guys and start. and so there was the news release that perhaps finally is wrong. we'll stop the attack. but then also also

a feeling that given the notice to stop israel over the course the past year, 6 months. that was to say that they're going to stop now. and given these really statements and given the american statements, it seems to be for many. ready all that this is really quite symbolic and, and that's it. people are looking for israel to stop this. genocide must stop and it should have stopped a long time ago. gives you and how is it being seen in as well? it depends by who am i going back to the questioning waterloo, fundable, the sort of the many lovely photo of this either of them or again the surgeon and you know, the bought the vehicle on the resolution. if it's only one case, then nothing would change. but there is a great the concern that they right, that saves is changing its policy though there's been many, yes can change. i am quite old folder because of it in time will show if it's just

the one case always have been getting a very interesting go back process, which reminds and also a very dramatic way chris, because it's signal a shift in the american position when it comes to the war and gaza, or just one of those moments. and i don't think it's a shift. i think it's about optics. abide and is in serious political trouble. i, he's his base has deserted him, especially younger voters. the genocide, the live stream jumpstart genocide doesn't play well domestically, doesn't play well internationally. it's clear the by the ministration is input in, in terms of being able to curb the excesses of the israeli government. whether that's the cutting, they'll be monetary and aid. last month's february, 8 shipments were down by 44 percent. the starvation in particular in northern

gaza. uh and then uh, the assault depending assault on rough. so by essentially of stating by not blocking the ceasefire, it is a way to go by the united states and by the, by the administration to distance themselves from named from what they know is coming because it's going to even may be even worse then than what we've seen as a riffing, as it already is. so i in terms of that, the only way to stop the genocide is to hold the arm shipments which are now massive is realized, completed. it stops. and i don't see that happening, indiana 6 months into the relaxing class bombardment, the killing of innocent civilians, the mass destruction of the home schools and hospitals do the policy. it is believed that this is something that could finally make a difference. yes,

it can make a difference, but the question is, who's going to stop israel? ok, it's important to keep in mind that this, that what has been happening has been not only as, as chris the live stream, but this is the most documented place on earth. and we know so what israel wants to be made it absolutely clear that they intend to carry other genocide and they have made it clear that they're going to i think we close the gaza strip and they are as so people are looking for any glimmer of hope that something will be done to stop this monster. that is called israel. and instead of stopping it, we see that the united states is serving as its cheerleader. as chris already mentioned, they didn't abstain at the red, but more importantly they been re certified. that more weapons are going to be coming to israel and that these weapons are used correctly when we know that.

ringback are being used to completely destiny because of strep, to carry out a genocide, to star palestinians, to destroy the place entirely. so the real issue is whether this is going to have cheese, and i know that the united states is not going to do anything, but the world doesn't consist of just the united states. and this is where it's become so important for every other nation around the world to actually make sure that these genocide doesn't continue to be perpetrated in their names. uh, get in the initial plan before the resolution was basically not teneo hoping to sun his top aides, but it's associated a fast long drum and national security council had. so hey, hi, nick, be to talk to the americans about the potential for a ground mid to operation in real fi. now that has been shown because of the advisory use anybody. instead,

the american are still going to listen to the minister of defense. you of go on, is this the no meant that nothing? yeah. has always fear most, which is basically being slapped in a way on another by the americans, not a little a motion over a century and say, what's going calling because i do know it's really only about talking said don't kind of ritual. there's nothing he always playing on the line so piece can painful survive in power in his domestically he wants to be seen is the guy who spends coverage is named from over there. marian can send both both of those to to their a restriction. so but he, him and the cancellation of all those thoughts i wouldn't think central, it's about the significance. what is much more significant i think is the thing that yeah. and that, that look again in the talks was, was come boss a whole for

a goals and extend the prism is the say should warning us much more because a and then don't can be no, can lead us for many places and above or we should put attention to measures and tags. and last to go kings a very guys until now, only talking. good. so that's the word chris by abstaining to pay the way for the the resolution to be adopted was the by then administration. genuinely concerned about the what happens that's it goes or just mainly concerned about the next elections. you know, the, they're, well, they're concerned about being an international pariah along with israel. they're certainly very concerned about the domestic blow back if they were concerned about

the palestinians. they would not have cut funding to own, rub up, and then they were a major rising, the major funder of one. right. and they would uh curtail the arms shipments which are massive. i think 68 percent if i have that right of the munitions. but it was real uses are now shipped in from the united states. so this is a game to, by mid ministration has been plane for 6 months. i've covered many complex. so i spend 20 years abroad as a foreign correspondent, and you usually call for a cease fire immediately. not 6 months afterwards. you, you, you trying to establish a ceasefire so that the warring parties can begin to create diplomatic options rather than killing each other. now divide in ministration is a full partner in the israeli genocide without question. it knows very well what is real is doing. andy is going to do the mass starvation loans

in gaza and i think they want to put distance between themselves and the nightmare. the world is about to watch, but it's a rhetorical distance. it's not a real distance. the only country that is responding in any way is young. but uh, and then of course, we have seen the u. a saudi arabia and jordan, create a land quarter to make sure israel gets its consumer goods and vacuum cleaners and vegetables and everything else. so it's, it's not just the united states that is complicit. it's uh the, um, essentially most of the world community or whatever their rhetorical statements are, of the young men is the, oh, that's the only country that's essentially attempting to interfere in this genocide . yeah, well, what would be the way i had for the policy is when it comes to the full thing of

the resolution, you know that not because that is non biting. everybody knows nothing about the ultimate tv is writers have neglected many of the resolutions in the past due to the policy is have only one way off, which is basically but so a legal pass to ensure that this is going to be implemented, particularly when it comes to the implementation of this he's by so that i wanted to touch upon this issue of whether it is binding or not. and this is where the united states makes a mockery of the institutions that it claims to us in the bible by every un security council. resolution is fine. there is it is there isn't such a thing as a non binding secured accounts. the rest of the way that the united states as. ready interpreted is that they're not going to do any. ringback to make sure that. ringback for us that's very different when it's being binding on monday. and so once again, the question becomes who is going to put into place that unfortunate mattress we

just house days. we all have that. yeah, we don't have the ability to so we're not to stay brother, siege blockaded. we're living under military occupation. you need a refugee's unit. but that doesn't mean that other people are so concerned. and this is why it's so important. the growing boy condra investment sanction. so but has been growing for reset, do there, is there a reason that you're seeing millions of people taking to the streets around the world because they feel and they know that nobody's doing it to stop this genocide a. so the matter is, rather than the united states pretending that it's somehow not finding what it is, is says, we should be focusing on making sure that those institutions are actually of how they're respected. instead of getting everybody else around the world to be forced up to international law or to be forced to stop this genocide. this is where you see the failure in the international system is there is to be an international

system then. then what we should be saying is that countries likely like. ringback israel, which is a pariah rogue state should be held to the child rather being called along the way as it has by the united states and by other european nations. ready well, gives you the i, c, j is provisional measures was questioning a guy as and it read. so the, the measure is asking these right is to empty man to cease by and to look for us. can these writers in particular to make sure that they are not taking any image that he's going to both serious the rest of the policy is with this new reservation, the legal consequences, or is it anything that these rights governments you think would be thinking about the upcoming days. i know he's very much because they gave him the game and i repeat myself as long as it smoke the photo by measures by reactions and steps. which what they find is, is read always riley's or make them pay a prize for,

for what's going call. and as long as it's not about this is what i'm going to continue. what is its own body? see, ignoring the resolution. so we finish institutions in that. so for the kids, it's not you. the real question is the international community, no problem on the nations and advisors and friends into measures and actions. and even this for being a was starting sions, it's based reading, okay. but you would see more of the same use would be to continue was the war as much as each pages sentence necessary for its own interest and the to continue to call today. all right, for kind of resolutions against these. right. and these aren't really, you know, chris, there was a how global semantics over the last few days about the draft of the reservation.

and the chinese other busses veto dropped reservation by the american saying that it was giving good lights of these violence just lost the ground operation. in rough i was the russian chinese veto the trigger. the problem to the america is to say, you know what, this could be the moment for us to reconcile. i, i don't, i can't answer that because i'm not at the u. n. a reporting. i think that the, i think the russians and the chinese were right. i just want to go back to that issue on law. you know, the i, c, j is not going to rule for a very long time, but domestically the shipping of arms, a weapon supplies to israel, vile age, 5 different laws in the united states. the foreign assistance act, the arms export control act, us work crimes at the late he will on the genocide convention implementation act.

so there is an egregious violation of domestic law and not only international law in order to, to continue. uh no i, you know, is immediately when the, uh, sci fi resolution was passed. uh, the united states, essentially kirby and others called it non binding i. e is real, doesn't have to buy, buy it. and there will be no enforcement mechanism. and we're not responsible for ensuring that is real, abides by it. jenna is these right, is this slide to go in rough? uh, would it completely undermine this reservation? yes, of course, if they continue to bomb as they have, it undermines the resolution. but that's the point is real, has always viewed it so as the new as being above the law. and it's always view the costs to the ends already. that's how citizens are not as, as in any way supposed to be afforded their rights. this is where i'm, you know,

getting into some of this now a couple of times and i want to pick up on it. and this is for. ringback i'm so important for sanctions sweep lot to be applied, i guess when, when you live in your job, you see what it's like. there is a country that is full on genocide on. now, they're either ignoring which are to sign or they're showing, you know, there are very few who are actually called by what israel 0 a is there to, they're doing anything to stop it. and it's only when israel actually feels the force of the world community through the former sanctions, or by the ostracized, whether it's not being allowed to be and you are a vision for example, or the olympics or any of these is that, that's when you begin to see a shift, i'm not so sure the shift what happens inside is media, but there will be a shift where they're going to have to reckon with their genocidal nature. but to

answer your question, of course, any action that israel's doing, as he has done today, is undermining the ceasefire resolution. and here's where that's now wants to show that he's not only boss, and that he is the person who sends orders to the united states. but that he can continue to defy the world and do whatever it is that he gets in the same time. there's a novel paddling path, which is the behind close to tools to bring about a settlement and narrow the differences between how much and is well, do you see the potential for an immune and do no, i don't see a potential for an imminent dean a i see a potential for getting to some kind of fainter indeed. but by the end of the day, you guys a call good by is way. is what i right now is no intention to withdraw from you guys. uh, and as long as this is the case, what kind of do you can be there?

is way we stay in guys. uh, even if the with the ceasefire, even though we be oliver. and this will be a real international falls between and false is where the police draw from guys. so don't forget, the majority of these really, the big majority of these are using know the, the so called b scan, but less things. they all support continue in this more. don't forget that most of these already or has been think then what is what he's doing can go they go to, to just the rather than just the pipe in this atmosphere. don't expect too much from is when it must come from the international community. chris, we spoke earlier about the calculations of the, by the administration. and i wanted to know more about the broader picture in the us. is that how, how much of a position that we have in the west of the water and cause

a i think the opposition is pretty significant, not among the ruling political class. although even there you're beginning to see cracks in the house of representatives. but on the streets, people are paul the, the, the demonstrations. what we're, we're talking 6 months now and i haven't stopped, not only have they not stock, but they've not diminished in size. and of course we've had very dramatic protest aaron, boss, now. uh, so i'm on the base and then of course we've had the voting in the primaries where people have uh voted uh uh, not sold it for buying and they've just been a non committal vote of some significance. so i think in michigan they were trying to get 10000 of these loans and they got over a 100. uh so uh yeah the, the, and the you that was very cheap. it support for buy it and to begin with. so it's not like you had much of a solid political base to build on and that we have seen evaporating. and there

been all sorts of reports including obama visiting by the white house, with the warnings that binding is in serious, serious trouble. and i think that this is a way to appease the israel lobby. i all they care about really is that they the united states, keep providing weapons, material or material to sustain the genocide. that's the issue. and then deal with this very rest of and disenchanted public, especially among young voters, but also among the arab american community, a sizable community address, again in new jersey. it is so and they're not going to vote for buttons. so i can find, remember, if you look back at those states, the, the trump one by just so you know, single digit percentage points. so binding is in serious trouble, politically, not just because of his unwavering complicity or support for the genocide,

but on a whole list of other issues, but taking a role to gather. yeah, so i think this is what we're saying is more campaign moment and attempt to mollify a disenchanted base. i think that's what this is really about deana when you look at the wording of the sale of the resolution that talks about an immediate cease fire during the muslim hunting month of ramadan, we are almost, we'll, halfway through with the resolution become completely irrelevant. let's say in a week from now, if we don't have any agreement as a whole, the books and the fact is only be of calls for during the month. but i'm a 100 is also laughable. and we have the expert after expert who said that it's probably going to take more than a year just to clear out the rustle. it's going to take such a long time just to get the much needed aid, which is the northern part of the ga stress, much less than treat the people who are still under improved it and to collect

those people who are under the level. so the idea that this is. ringback short term is, is crucial and is soon as we should be focusing on actually stopping israel. and again, you know, christian, something that was really important. he said, usually we get these un resolutions at the beginning of not 6 months in but the fact that they waited for such a long time for. ringback to carry out no attack and carry a just a side shows just how come 1st at the united states is in this, in this genocide, me get in. i've been, is listening to you basically saying that you don't expect any major impact of this resolution on the is valleys domestically now that they have been those saying that basically that's anyhow, his biggest concern has he's been his own personal political survival. his opponents in is why do they see this as one of those bad moments that could help

them put more pressure on him, or at least pushed for this company? it's got uh, will company to disintegrate. i must remind you that also he's in favor of continuing the war. mm. don't know, they've made a call or still they will warrant drugs. so it's not like we have in a position to the war in this way. we have in a position to nathan jo and is right, and that's a big difference. now, it's not one moment we truly make the change. it is a process. no doubt that the american a 40 see if it's really been continue and photo okay. measures. we, we cut that bethany l. colquitt, so basically if you don't mind, if by then doesn't get re elected, i would likely just say in a change when it comes to the warning does a, you know, it won't make any difference for palestinians. let's remember, b, b, nothing. yahoo prefers trump over by. and then that's one of the final arteries. he

doesn't care if by and then the democrats disintegrate. there, there's deep animosities between personally, between buy it and then nothing. y'all goes back to be a ran deal when the republicans invited us and you all to attempt to sabotage the around deal by speaking directly to congress. so uh no, it's a win win for nothing. yeah. if a, b, b a, if it'd be be continues in power and giddeons very right. of course it doesn't matter if he's replaced or not. these are the gaza and the west bank and maybe 11 on. um no trump, uh they, they prefer trump they uh so if, if, if this is politically damaging to barton, think the israeli government under them, yahoo, don't care. thank you. thank you. thank you. i really appreciate your insight deanna, but to give you a levy. chris has just thank you very much indeed and thank you to a whole lot so you can see the program again, any time by visiting our website. i just see that the goal for further discussion

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