like those deliveries of food i didn't play need that because at that cute level of hunger and medical supplies need to r rawlings to with detailed coverage, no sooner do repair works for did this really military rates resume and there is more property destruction from the hearts of the story, this 10 has been a home and the only shows her for us and when a family, the living conditions are for perfect. the to fly. cons and nigeria stop the keep, nothing goes school children, almost $200.00 pupils are missing also, that makes it in use of similar attacks. the mass of junctions. plains or palms, goose unfounded, demanding ransom. so how is the nigerian government failing to deal with a long running problem? this is inside story, the

hello welcome to the program. i am how sion had a bottle. it's a bit power nightmare. the kidnapping of that children. it happens old too often, the light julia in the 2nd mazda abduction within a week gun man kidnapped what somebody bought, say around 300 school children. many of us made. remember, the 2 books school does updated by book ahead on 5 to 10 years ago, kidnappings, we made common with thousands of my jillions sees in the past few years. the government has promised to improve security, but the army is pressing. so while the attacks still happening and what needs to be done to make them stop, we go to all a punitive in just a moment, but 1st vent them on on. has this report. the families here in kaduna state want answers. armed men rated their village and kidnapped for more than $200.00 children. many save the failure of security is the government's bolts

. please help us. what is the president? where's the governor? is the 2nd rated rule nigeria within a week thousands have been abducted in recent years by arm groups seeking new recruits or ransom money. the state governor of kaduna has promised to do everything he can to bring the children home to buy the good the g. i as much as possible to ensure that able to tell the top 10 years ago school girls and she both made international headlines more than 270 were kidnapped from the school and bore no state many were turned. but even today, the whereabouts of some remained unknown 10 years on mass kidnappings are still common. nigeria is economic crisis and high unemployment has made things even worse, driving young man to join our groups. so i'm such as bulk of her, i have political goals,

but activists say other groups are simply out to make money. they're having to go back to content and that they also engage in active getting nothing. they boned villages. they. i talked from us that talk call me cuz that talks, schools, not bundle simply what you richard by money. they have no to just i did that. i was, they cannot, you pay them, you go. government leaders a place to fight back against the kidnapping. crime wave, but the army spread then fighting armed groups on several fronts. many regions of nigeria are lawless. restoring security is a major challenge, vented monahan al jazeera for inside story. the best way, the gas joining us from nigeria as carpets and a bu jeff, it's kennedy. oh can you though? she's founder and executive director of potters, west africa, but novel katya is a london. hey cindy, a fellow of the tony black institute for global change and from kaduna in nigeria,

we have so did god bless you for your security and defense consultant while come to the program, can me it is the same pattern that repeats itself time and again on demand, why didn't get into villages storming, schools low, think and kidnapping. do we know who they all? um. we suspect i would say a lot of the narrative is around the benefits and that the find dates um from hiding in the bushes that have taken. so it is in the unborn spaces on coming to this village is to read. in some cases being that is also the narrative that it's a mix. 3, the by the, i'm the in so dense law moving down from the not as collaboration with an findings in the, in the northwest. so technically will be we're not sure who they are. mm hm.

but on the, if the motive was run some you would assume that they would go off to, well say neighborhoods. but these people are doing exactly the same thing, which is targeting schools, pool areas, definitely as parts of the country. does it make sense to you? i mean, if we look at what the location is about the past few years, uh they do try get uh cbm notations that you would normally do using these pool. but the whole patient is that when they attack schools, why the notations associated with the government, then they would be able to pick sort of grandson's bathroom government from publications. and i think that it, let us in the event from that to because when people go out on the beach, one does have some of 20242014, sorry, no one thought they were going to make community and out of them. but when they sort of that government at the time now, what year to book an item on page of the roof of nigeria sort of, oh,

there is money to be made from school children if they will deduct it, because that will cost pop the outrage on based off quality assurance to be all. so the eclipse cooling kaduna is now in touch with the negotiators to try to work out the deed with the kidnappers, west west, and the local pharmacy. a while a, i think of the failure to stop a tax on that schools in that junior, especially in the northern part of nigeria, is, can believe that can be shared by the federal government by the state governments, by the local governments. and before i put them up private schools by wonderful private schools with regard to negotiations that are to uh, sort of there because the government has, uh, you know, it just moved to the report that was used. it's a friend and it wouldn't be able to meet with the bodies. but how about, like i said, all the 3 tiers, a woman would have to, you know, the, i would have to blame for this data aspects that have to be done by the federal

government company. i'm actually actually that can be taken by the state governments data company method. so that can be taken little by the support of what it is be to meet us. however, i would not have it all you need to option between this. irrespective is, uh, i put a top, we'd have find that this area isn't due to that. there's multiple service by telephone service that has nothing to for communication there. mm hm. uh there is, uh, no, any politician privilege in that area. and uh, well the, i talked to place around the, someone tell people around 8, it was fully 4 hours later about 12 pm. that's government just weren't able to that there was one on a truck there. so you can see that's the problem with infrastructure that supports the problem of uh, the government to the system. because what do i, what do i mean? yeah. the splitting them from the do physically uniform. that is cool in the middle of nowhere that it went to, you know, busy grab the friends,

putting it up for this up some there. there is no any, uh, sort of, uh, security it what and what kind of security want. that's the department that will look for this for you. what i'm do look totally cool after this. cool. you know, if, if there's a 2 month old homeless person that you know wouldn't have the big data, any security on the ground, okay. of the federal level. you know, get up, life will split declutter, so i'm looking to ship you. but the block only stops. can you hold? the pool is such an especial task for full, for centuries, here you hear of this civil defense. ec set them up a special type of supposed to go to school. but the truth is, that all the options, someone who job is to see is it kind of concrete glass once they get into of the school, that's completely upset. all right, kemi. if you look at the situation now, the reason why banditry has lived in the north western part of the country is a combination of different factors, unemployment, poverty,

mismanagement of public funds, a disgruntled population, and the government to think about it is going to send the ministry to try to control the situation. do you think that just by sending troops who would be able to put an end to this practice? i don't think so. i don't think so. i'm them. the reason, i mean, we've been having that need jessup rouge to this issue. it's an insecurity issue. that is, the, is call mainly by fee of a couple of minutes and them so they need it to that. so we have recently called the p, a federal government that states and up and rehab visibly confidently. a states government that states that the speed copy to the local governments administration in nigeria is missing and has been nice and for more than photos to 20 years. and no elections to create another local government level. one says no one says

governance structure at the local government level. and i would say in some places totally it will that in some places you can build speed, a snapshots of it. so infrastructure is mostly ground. um it for some reason nothing, brown, all the things that need to build on it is not on the ground. the criminal justice system is the big capital. when we're talking ministry roll out into the base right now, the military is right across, but that's a 6 states of f t 2 full deployments across the country. that's the responsibility of the many cheap. what's the responsibility of the police, the police? it presently reach nancy. i'm recruitment and it's supposed to be $10000.00, i think, across the country. but what's the, how do they arrive at the numbers for $10000.00? is there an assessment for us to know what the police in talent is across the country? so that we know the numbers that we need to build up most systematic approach to

this, but everything is just on based on the plan. okay. okay. process. so we need to deployment, i will say no, we must address it. thank you. but am i speaking of the oh oh, else is available for the full for the government, but now i'm up to noble, you know, way is grappling with the same challenge that faced his predecessor, i'm a will hardy before, which is basically the spots a big it was but then they suddenly discovered that they've got it to was something different. this just try to unpack what is happening in the north west, some parts of the country band. it's controlled by we massive area. but to kennedy, the rugal forest, which spends some father could see in the could do now and also so go to and cubby . and if you send the army or the police, everybody knows there's absolutely nothing they can do to fix this problem. unless there is a massive, dramatic change of the way the government deals with those issues. what do you

think would be the 1st step to be done by the president? you know, like you said, this is a situation that has been ice collection by space. and you've over the last 8 years, but it's the big history of a cleaning, 90. and dude, you can cut off. now judy has been there for decades and possibly speak about the estimate is about that. i don't keys 1000 bundy members divided into i don't 100 different groups reaching couple of in the most. i'm north central northwest and nigeria and they have taken over hundreds of villages. please look at i'm dr. dish. no, one of those are looking for the diesel and tradition of who knows and hopkins lived people in hundreds of the places right now. it's basically not wisdom that julia. oh but oh yeah, the other half does not include those clinic. pride is non violent. extreme is

boost. uh, what city will be the bad luck, the manufacture defects as a book where i'm calling on the ground and do not with the impact of nigeria on some she already see this back in july i todd was blamed debited by that and kind of the of the vehicle book, 100, i'm going, i'm sorry, nothing, nothing is short. oh no we, i'm not sure which group is responsible when it comes to what needs to be done now or the 5 step. the 1st step is necessarily security. because these, these big question of security, when they will have the most engaging villages keeping hundreds of the most and not julian's every month. i'm repeating women adopting my thing to be to us and my us in order to get the extra money from their properties and from government. the government has to respond with what community boss. okay. but you know, and of course, when you responded with community and force, then you have to then start in the media and the long run. to start to address this,

what's your point? it's going to have the kind of big issues driving some of these things. okay? including the white press drive job, but musically, what is necessary? it's not, you know, now it has to continue a new type of to be improved. so the, but i'm a huge just said we need more books on the ground, but president brought to know by himself said we need to reform the secuity. it provides us the ministry in particular to tackle contemporary security challenges. because i mean, you ask anyone with basic knowledge of security and who would tell you this is a massive intelligence fadia from the ministry stablish man, but also from the police and from the local authorities. each time was setting the same pattern, which is, even if you send thousands and thousands of soldiers the moment you don't have the intelligence, you won't be able to stop these things. yes, i completely agree with you that uh, before we talk about send this logistical police because that to be very active,

you know the task. what do we do before to find out what schools it does not have to be all the angles. that's important color schools that are the substitute declaration, you know, which gives certain face that to the. busy officers of the shows a different levels can go to 4 to 5 schools. i'm comfortable with the benefits we develop as far as getting that julia without accommodation for, for students. and for the couple of days, we have a business pool, which i'll give them the basic uh, you know, of the payment options. these web builders schools will talk. you wouldn't have been a little collab and see of, of the gospel security people listen to this. so the idea of interrupting is just for the seconds if you don't mind but, but what about does not seem to agree with you a total of this what am i doing? i don't have, it seemed because uh what uh, uh, kept is that it gives the funding to is the school year to back was introduced,

bought, uh, don't tell me as a whole. why don't you book incident? no idea that you kind of nice to live schools and provide security before them when insecurity to use uh, endemic into one of the country is jessica pharmacy is the one to see that would never happen. if you want to talk against jody to you, you have to talk cause you drop the whole community and you have to confront detail on the way to confront. instruct you have one is protecting the fight to the bundle, seem to force you cannot pro tech school into the nice relation of the rest of the community. even though i do a couple in the community and you want to protect just schools that hundreds of schools across north and not julia millions. now if you like, i believe you about to get our monies the country. i need about the how i am going to, i submit those. how are you going to do most of them in selection of the, of the, of the business idea. let's, let's, let's a subject develop that has his own idea. yes, of the point i'm making, you know,

the idea because we well know the importance of the future. we all know the importance of education. and yeah, because of course, is that not have the security situation to address will be able to go to school and get to clear up for them the where you know, different about the subject before a couple of schools in that area. so what the forces, thank you for do a visual go. so the idea is that how do we ensure our use punch in the word just for the children? there is no future and you just click this button. it's one of the public schools. i swear to up to them because the you very easy. i talk. what can i say the desktop targets? so this was the reason why i was of the, of, of, of the data. well that's what you would use is what's course been targets it. the only option we have not used for children, which is what you're looking for, the future or the company, which will not be good for the future of this week or so. but despite the security challenges our children, our grandchildren went to school. this is the reason why i was given special

emphasis on for the next bill, but it is from dispos that attracted by pack kemi. the local authorities have tried in the past these deals and this days it didn't work. now they are trying to recruit vigilantes in the area. isn't this just another indication of a failure at all levels of the federal of the local? i think it's in the, as we, it's an indication of feed you all the levels of the manage within the search within the country. and if i add to what's the deacon saying, the issue of schools being attacked is increase the numbers about to school children in the northern part of the country. i mean, we have a full size of developments and indicators of the country. it won't let them know the country doesn't the mobile? well, even the sound of the kind of the country doesn't offer well. we've been challenges

. vigilant days is let me just upfront. also we must have a lease take approach, which full security, a holistic security approach. spots in the fall, the community scaling all to the federal level. so the community level you can have been come, isn't that exist that how to look at sense and issues and then we scale. it's all and then we know with the m. s. c, these become saying, we know where the police come up and we know where the military comes to like a concentric approach. it's concentric step will approach to the security to address and the insecurity. we've been the space with the community and that's not the not the end of the day. we've been the country. but one without the other is

not going to work, share enough information, god for the life and inflammation. so it becomes confortable at intelligence. but it's an actual level and effective response, but some all down needs to be looked at. i mean makes because and they said defensively. but right now everybody seems to so the other person and i the end of the day, it's been ross who is the community on the ground, but a soft spring, full face, skewed a struggle structures that we have in place. but on the, the government, how 10 years from the 2014, with the sheeple kidnapping, to understand that there is something wrong that it's about time to change the dr. reading itself. but nothing has happened to the point where we seeing this pass and repeating itself time and again across different parts of the country. 80 percent of the military is involved in tackling domestic issues. we should be focusing more

on the border area. the police is not really having a biggest say, people are really skeptical of the vote of the police in those issues. what you changed is that gives you the priority when this is the wealthiest nation, by the way, in the applicant content with massive spending on the army and the police, yet it is facing this long string of issues a yeah, i mean we, i think it, it wouldn't be fair on the government was present and nothing has been happening. the government has to be mentioned, of course, but today i have what's how the parting shot. and i think in particular, these government is going to be 9 months old. and it became, i mean, heading to the crisis, the kinds that that has one to city or even states for when it's going to take time . unfortunately, to excise the time treated from the body. but when it comes to what needs to be done, i think i 91 of the key areas. i want to think he gave us. he's bought the security

big guns to big the munitions of the drugs that i used to call me this. he has crimes come from outside and not to be as bored as unfortunately not g. p. a has not paid enough attention to the migration on bloodstone bobbie says inside your boat as we have up to 1400. you don't need to go down with new jeffrey populate, for example, we have the always come at one which todd on countries getting prices for neighboring countries in crisis by lead, the easy way, one time drug smuggling internet studio. we do, we need, we need to do more in terms of technology and pass. know to make sure that the supply of drugs found guns and munitions internet. judy, a start continuing to fight these crisis without us joining the border is 9 you school to what's happening from my book about flowing, but without stopping up front of them, do i need to do the top. continuing to run a new i use the, the call to continue school do what the, why that,

what when do you do is to promote, to bring the truck we kind of a continuing that we need to, to do the not to do all these for us because these not into judy too much as it is because the police use painting. that is why somebody has been deployed. nat geo has 850000 security for i'm in police focus this boy population of a 101 bit. i'm going to be an estimate to be around 40 bucks in the police office has a 150 of them deployed to administrative duties and to protecting a very important prices for the cases and reads people and that there is no police from the ground into the areas and that needs to be improved. and the beeping telling the dentist suppose we need to do more to okay, but as patient using technologies that we wait to try to useful as students wants to be done, like we saw it is in the. okay. so the, do you, do you think it's about time for the nigerian government to team up with the cha

dns with the color audience. and also with the new jerry is to try to secure this entire area that stretches from the knees a base and all the way to the lake of chant. yes, there is the elemental sort of notion of organized crime that is supposed to associated with this. i put it in nigeria, weight and especially the something has a, a, a trump national component. it does better necessary to be in sync with the neighboring countries. the actual i look for lead, but uh, you know, people working with uh, with uh, with uh, with, with neighboring countries. it gives you helped to put a whole security plus i know to be is so to be able to book an extra information, for example, how much are the for us? is we have low would you defenses? so the idea of security, i guess is what, uh, well, that will least what uh, migration will that postpone. it will forward it to have some tools that can be able to uh, that would enable them to work with a company in the francophone companies. uh here, what i mean is that, uh, if you,

uh, you can have those some, uh, you know, uh, migration uh or different when you find that's not julian the christian out by some new condo, speak french where the french people, cuz the french have different one is elizabeth english is not important, which is very important for you to assess information for you to even really coordinate with your nipples. you'll have to, of the system, you have to move the language, you'll have to move the approach. all right, so this is what i'm on the table has top of the form in the security central performing the security district all is as music that had been found by maybe maybe just look at something that didn't. what meant, what call could actually look and have been taught the administration for him, his social security stuff, sort of, what did you do? anything i have with all the equipment. okay. can me, there's another layer to the study which haven't touched so far, which is basically the animosity between the house on the for lenny, the how does on the farm is,

is this something that has contributed to this increasing banditry in the north west? some parts of the country, basically if you don't mind coming i'm not sure. the reason i say i'm not sure is that we might be lagging something. that is not really it's, i think it was. i think part of the, one of the concrete thing that has escalates and these are the challenges ecological changes that we're facing, that we sent out. so you find that water is becoming the most boss are of the land is also decreasing. so this brings a new tension between the 2 groups, right? um, so is it the parent parent and now you know, is it between 2 s may be different between 2 groups because they don't like each other or the between 2 groups because of the contest they show full natural resources land. and what i would go with the,

to land with the 2nd one we just landed on the test. and then when we talk about what's the because talking about about language is cultural, checked, and changes challenges between 2 countries such as when you look at the sol reading level, we know that the board is in africa and i do have not excluded i positioned by this so you have 20 people the 2nd week in some cases, the same family leaving on the different sides of the board as they, they communicate the engage, been each other in office. i would stress the game this big the nation state is trying to do this without bringing in the population on the ground. but i expected this, an effective population came as something to bring on the table. it's an extraordinary array of challenges. climate change for to show it as bulk of how long these

lubbock states, what's an offer, you know, what's the african province and also the banditry. looking forward to having this conversation with you in the near future. a kimmy condo bubble coffee, and so did god bless you. i really appreciate your insight. thank you. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just see the com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash h a insights store. you can also join the conversation on the x hand that is at a j inside study. for me, i shall talk about on the entire team here in the life on the instead of these cries, it's good. it's been dead silence if it wasn't for grandmother and had a seal of

a house, a neighbor after midnight trying to get to a hospital includes is really me. the 3 check point stood in the way. i was embarrassed. a lot of man. we're around, but my few for the baby was stronger, but not every story has a positive and through last day it shows us her daughter's birth certificate next to death certificate. on the same day in 2003 soldiers asked her to sit quiet. you. she started shouting, i gave birth, followed by silence. and another shot. i think she died just a few hours ago. these really ministry installed this gate at the entrance to the village. mother is about to give birth, the music to go to the hospital like no, no which gate is open and which one is closed? in an increasingly complex world, it's paramount to be direct capture water sheds. moments international law is being

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