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today was a very busy day in moscow , as far as international events are concerned, and the most important of these events, of course, was the visit to moscow of the president of the people's republic of china xi jinping. and although official negotiations will begin only tomorrow. some quite important statements have already been made today. i just got interested from the very beginning. this is what both president putin and the chairman called friend friend, dear friend hmm ah, and as it were in the case. this was more expected for putin, but there was pressure on the chinese delegation from washington and other places, but if you want, to distance yourself somewhat from russia in this context as well. appeal, dear friend, and it,
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of course, what is called speaks for itself. let's get a look. and what did president putin say to russia and china on international relations? we carefully reviewed your settlement proposals. uh, acute crisis in ukraine, of course, we will have the opportunity to discuss these issues, we know that you proceed from the principles of justice and observance, the fundamental provisions of international law, indivisible security for all countries, you are also aware that we are always open to the negotiation process. let's discuss all these questions, including your initiations, to which we unconditionally refer to addition. that is, the principles of international law, and not on those so -called rules that are emphasized by the collective west. and here is what he said about
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this, er, sir. away troubled world china ready with russia resolutely uphold the un-centric international system guard the world order based on international law and the fundamental norms of international relations based on the purposes and principles of the un charter adhere to true multilateralism promote multipolarity in the world and democratize international relations foster the development of global governance in a more just and rational direction. well, it personally seems to me that there is a very big coincidence, at least the philosophy of the relationship is said again, putin was supposed to be like this quite clearly. but with regard to si , at least there were hopes in washington. well , let's just say that he will not be a little more evasive.
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uh, this is how to clearly formulate a position that clearly disagrees with the opinions of the administration, and with us today vasily kashin, director of the center for comprehensive european and international studies at the higher school of economics and a well-known specialist on china, today a lot has been said about what happened, therefore i will ask you a direct question what was the most important thing from your point of view ? and was there anything that surprised you in a good or maybe not a very good way. well i think this first day. eh, the most important. ah, the most important thing was the tonality itself. uh, the dialogue was really emphasized. uh, under these conditions, there is a special closeness between russia and china, and, despite uh, such serious pressure from the west and
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the demonization of russia and its leadership. uh, the chinese leader emphasized a special personal relationship with president putin - this is, emphasized si- in previous contacts , it is traditionally believed that their personal very good connections play a big role, but now this is once again uh, it has been confirmed, and the length itself. e their negotiations. they spent several hours there together, and longer than expected. uh, everything, this uh speaks of the intention uh, to develop relations further uh and reach a new level of cooperation, while uh, the chinese rhetoric towards the us just in the last few weeks. it became tougher, a number of ministry documents were issued foreign affairs extremely critical
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of the united states in my opinion , the most surprising is the document that was entitled american hegelmanisms its danger. it came out on february 20, i think. it listed, uh, all the historical wrongdoings of the united states, from the genocide of the indians to the sanctions against huawei, and concluded that america has historically pursued some kind of hegemonic policy. but now, it seems to me the last time. oh, uh, the chinese wrote in perhaps that in the cold war somewhere against the soviet hegemolists. these are really significant changes. at least the tone. yes, yes today, uh, well, just the other day, a similar uh about a strange article came out on mead's website about uh, fictitiousness. uh, the inferiority of american democracy. yeah mido china i mean they
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used to get away from uh harsh criticism and uh hmm towards the us there, questioning the very basis of american policy. this is now considered normal. and we see that china has simultaneously put forward its positions in recent weeks, a whole series of programmatic documents on different aspects of policy. uh, that is, the position on the ukrainian crisis. this is just one of a series of documents they have come out with recently. and that's it. it is, of course, in the background. mm such great foreign policy successes, for example, the conclusion of an agreement with chinese mediation between iran and saudi arabia to normalize relations. i mean, this is hmm a good background for uh, a breakthrough in our relationship and uh, what they uh, just now decided
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to demonstrate maximum intimacy. this is very good. this is somewhat unexpected because throughout. e period first svo. nevertheless, they behaved much more carefully, tried to reassure the europeans, tried to show their neutrality. now the situation has changed. thank you. here, let 's see. uh, what guidance did the chinese and russian leaders give, just today, the secretary of state, damn it. today and for the next few days, xi will be meeting with president putin in russia, we expect china to use this visit to call for a ceasefire within the his proposal for a peace settlement. but cessation. a fire now without a long-term solution would allow president putin to rest and re-equip his troops, and then resume the war at a better time for russia, the world should not be fooled by any
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tactical move by russia, backed by china or any other country, to freeze the war on its own terms. andronicus well, what is it? this is a commentary for the american media. it's just another if you want to demonstrate the american position or really secretary of state. may think that if you give such a warning from washington , it can affect the russian and chinese leaders of moscow dmitry is a great question. moreover, if there weren’t this blinken comment, it was necessary to invent it, because it says, i would now give a wider context, what he said, because all these days in all ukrainian sites, american sites
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in all sites that so-called analysts write about russian-chinese relations. they demonstrated complete misunderstanding. which of these relations is not only the nature of the interdependence of these two countries and blinkin along with all sorts of them. i think that maybe he will be flattered along with some fagins. there are some latins there, some minions, their names are a million, that all the animals come to meet the vassal. russia is a vassal putin is a subordinate. and now, apparently, he thinks that he really thinks just as primitively as these people whom they read, who feed them. apparently, if they say strictly e, then e. don't you dare show there some closer attitude to demonstrate your proximity to your
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strategic goals and so on, otherwise you will feel bad. in fact. they don't understand a very simple thing. i wanted to say very briefly, firstly, they don’t go to the vassal with m-m. secondly, not a single vassal can destroy the entire landscape. russia has such military power and such capabilities, and thirdly. uh, in general, russia is an existential problem for china; it is china that needs russia in this huge confrontation with the global for years and decades. maybe forward without russia , china will not be able to resist this pressure. moreover, america surrounds china with all sorts of blocs. own 23 million, 21 trillion 23 million of the west is still japan australia and
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so on, that is, in this world, china understands that the only real force that can stand shoulder to shoulder and really, like a rock , resist this pressure, so somehow i i wrote and i want to end here. russia is resisting today not only for itself, but because of that guy, that guy. this is china and they need each other. here, on others , she said very well and at an analytical level. and i certainly completely agree, but i want to ask you vasily and in beijing , they also see this one or a little differently about the extent to which they need russia. yes , of course, firstly in the context. eh, the conflict in ukraine is an understanding that a defeat of russia is not permissible, here, and since it will cause a radical deterioration in the position of china itself historically. uh, i would
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even say, uh, from the last period of the existence of the soviet union from the end in the eighties, the normalization of relations with our country was perceived as a powerful achievement. and even with russia in the nineties , ties were considered extremely important and were constantly in the field of view of the top leadership. and even then, uh, there were basic mechanisms and regular meetings of leaders. and even under yeltsin. this high-level contact was maintained very well. e, and as russia's capabilities in the economy, the military sphere in politics began to grow its importance in the system of chinese priorities also began to grow. eh, that is the understanding of that. russia is ensured by one side of china's security. from the northern direction, it is a key partner. in
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diplomacy at the level of international organizations, primarily the un, an important partner in regions such as the middle east and africa , e still plays a role. uh, in the uh of china's military-technical modernization and uh, becoming an increasingly important supplier of resources. and this is especially important now in the context of the sanctions struggle in the context of the vulnerability of sea lanes, the fact that russia, no matter what the united states does, can always supply a certain amount of resources along continental routes, this is of strategic importance, yes for china but tell konstantin how about uh russia uh who do they say that they are afraid of supplying chinese weapons to russia but such supplies have not yet begun . and by the way, both russia and china, as i understand it, say that
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there have not been such deliveries yet, but on the other hand. i hear more and more that something is going on. there are some forms of cooperation known to you between china and russia in military-technical field such forms that can, of course, be voiced in an open program. yes, there is quite close cooperation between russia and china in the military- technical and military-strategic spheres. i 'll start with the military technical area. it just touches upon the issue of china's russia's interest in russia. first, russia is a country that is capable of providing china's nuclear missile umbrellas. china's ability to provide its own missile and nuclear protection by itself is currently insufficient. there's potential here
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uh, the intercontinental ballistic missiles that china currently has, their number of warheads, with a high probability , their absolute majority can be neutralized by the american missile defense system, they especially take into account this fact that chinese intercontinental ballistic missiles do not provide trajectory manipulation, which means they are vulnerable for the wire system, unlike, say , our vanguards. also, an asset. well, this is a technical question. this is the first moment. the second point that i want to note china categorically needs russian military technologies for 30 years. china does not still need to continue for 30 years. china failed to form. uh, scientific schools in the field of military uh, so to speak, both in military theory and in the field of military equipment. uh , corresponding, let's say, to the level that russia has , therefore china is interested in purchasing our su-35 fighters and in purchasing our destroyer
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of these same s-400 anti-aircraft missiles. although this is already, in general, there is a machine of the previous generation of attempts to copy our systems then the same hq-9 thousand 112 and other chinese air defense systems. it indicates that china could not equalize the quality of the weapon system, which it copied from e with the s-300 system, which we supplied to them, the same can be said for the fleet of the chinese fleet , numerous in number. it matches the us navy. horror already, yes, yes, it fits. however, even more. yes, yes, however, however, if we take the potential of warships, here is the composition of weapons. that's it, he is significantly inferior american fleet. the main organ, due to which they have weak acoustic capabilities of the acoustics of combat acoustic sonar stations, noisy submarines, cruise missiles, do not have
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the ability to defeat all, but for heavily protected targets, these are the missiles that are coming. they still correspond to that generation, say, like the american anti-reactive anti-ship tomahawk which was not removed from the structure, by the way, say what uh is doing uh, china is doing something for russia can you do something about this china for russia i understand that this is a sensitive issue due to chinese concerns about sanctions, so uh, china for russia uh. well, i'll tell you what the americans are waiting for. uh, the americans are waiting for china to be able to supply weapons through belarus, so they were very worried about lukashenka's arrival in china because they believe. so china will supply ammunition and military weapons to belarus, and belarus will then transport russia in this way due to the fact that china has no sanctions on cooperation with belarus, therefore they can act like this, which means that
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they can represent chinese supplies for russia. the first stage, of course, is ammunition in cannon artillery. we have reached a very high consumption today, a level that allows us to compensate for all expenses, that is, by our production we provide compensation for the expenses that are taking place now. well, i can say, there is no army that said that it will have enough supplies, therefore, excess supplies will never hurt. here and but the most important thing is different. china, we are the most reliable for russia, so to speak, there is assistance from russia, and china will be a reliable phosphorus post in the pacific ocean, so that we do not think about, uh, the eastern direction. so if we have friendly relations in this regard, it will be very good. and this is actually confirmed, because russia regularly conducts strategic naval exercises with china. i also want to have one
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important point about the direction of foreign policy. china and any other country is most concentrated in the military-technical policy in this technical policy. china reflects a distinct, pronounced priority for the development of fleets for a war with russia, a fleet is not needed, and the second point. by the way, the most expensive photo view is, uh, the armed forces and the second is the air force. that's to a lesser extent. this is an armored vehicle. and another sign that china is focusing on long-term friendly relations with china and russia are how is this construction not paradoxical? the step of intercontinental ballistic missiles is our border with these missiles. the dead zone is very large up to 4000 km times, second, being near our border, these mines are very vulnerable to the first strike with conventional weapons, so this is a high degree of trust of the chinese side in relation to russia,
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so the chinese side is counting for a long time. however, i would like to point out. i now see a lot on the internet, and messages are aimed at undermining russian-chinese relations, which you say openly, allegedly. china is going. arrange their expansion there and seize the territory of russia. that's about chinese tanks appeared on our territory. although they arrived there for the exercises they left in such a spirit and in such a context is impossible. these are provocateurs. thanks for many years. in america many times. have been to china many times. i don't know if you would agree? the americans, the political ones who make non-political decisions with them, they are still not complete idiots, and they are still not complete ignoramuses and are recognized by the leadership of both parties in congress. i’m not talking about the biden administration that the main challenge
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for the united states in the long run is precisely china. why, in under these conditions, they are pursuing a policy in such a way that objectively china has every incentive for russia to get closer? or simply on this topic washington no longer read the need to think no, on this meter. this is a very good question. i also thought about this a lot, and in fact, this is not the first time we are discussing this. the fact is that this topic has been featured in american political discourse for a long time in your gremalison center. you wrote about this topic. many others wrote mine this is a famous city. do not push russia into the arms, china spoke about this in your life, where are we with him deported on these issues and others, but
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we see, apparently, there is some amazing inertia on the one hand. and a plus. i would say very influential circles in america who do not want to leave russia alone. everything needs to be demonstrated. what are you saying that china, yes, maybe, well, russia is the main enemy today and here , plus it's all a lobby, these baltic states are a polish lobby. unfortunately, part of the israeli lobby and part, because they often treat russia with respect and sympathy, but a significant part takes such the same position in congress and in the media and it does not allow. i will give one example with one person whom you all
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know well, probably he died not so long ago on the side of the american embassy. we talked to journalists who lived in america for many years, our outstanding journalist yes, he comes up to me and says, it was a period when we were pressed every day. the gubernatorial elections have been cancelled. and he took me aside in the residence to the spaso house and said, andrianik. can you ever to imagine that in the american congress they would discuss from a penoyurt the question is, in nigeria, governors are appointed or elected in india, governors are appointed, but what is it, but, because there are a lot of people who left russia for america to whom russia does not give rest and they are mobilizing all so that not a single second could be distracted by anything else. why did they put such a wit on
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the trump that he said? it is necessary to spit on europe, to spit on the collision, to spit on nata , to normalize relations with russia and resist china well, they ate it, because it destroyed their entire world order. it's not, i would say, it's not stupidity. this, apparently, and this is a disease of this in general, well, a disease that borders on criminality, because they said that they interpret their national tasks incorrectly from this disease, and i agree with this thought. we're leaving for advertising, we'll be back in just a few minutes and we'll have a skype visit to washington who will explain the american perspective well to us. donovan's death
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while russia's china's leaders discuss in moscow the prospects for their relations and the future of world politics. the main political topic in the united states is how to put former president donald trump in jail and this is the topic that what is called split the nation to it was clear never in america, never in america, but they did not plant the former president, and in the case of donald trump. not only is he a former president, but he is a leading candidate to win the republican party's presidential nomination again. here's what donald trump himself said about these
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charges, which are supposed, as he himself suggests, at least to him, and may be brought tomorrow, er, by the prosecutor, who is located in the center of new york. our nation is now third world it's dying the american dream is dead the radical left anarchists stole our choice of president and with this the heart of our country the american patriots are arrested and imprisoned like beasts while criminals and thugs from the left are allowed to go unconscious in the streets to kill and burn without any punishment millions infiltrate us through the open border crime and inflation destroy our way of life. now an illegal leak from the corrupt and highly politicized manhattan prosecutor's office surrounded by which has allowed to collect new records of violent crime and whose leaders are funded by george soros indicate that at least one
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crime cannot be proven and is based on old information and is a fairy tale completely debunked by many other prosecutors republican candidates, the former us president will be arrested on tuesday this week. let's protest and become a nation again. what is of great importance here? this is what the highly controversial figure want. in the republican party here in this issue of character. and the motives presented to him accusations the republican party has practically united and that's what trump's main rival for the nomination of florida governor rodas has just said. what i know for sure. so it's that the district attorney of manhattan is a soros-funded prosecutor. so he, like others whose prosecutors sponsor soros, use his post
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as a weapon to impose a political agenda on society at the expense of the rule of law and public safety, very briefly, and explain what they want to accuse trump of. well, let's just say that there are a few other prosecutors that will follow, uh, and in the state of george and federal prosecutors. well, now we 're talking about the possibility of charges from the monhatman prosecutor. and uh, maybe correct me if i'm misrepresenting this, because it's not very easy for me to understand what trump is accused of, as i understand it. uh, he is accused of being his former lawyer michael cohen, who for many years was his lawyer, and when trump refused to pardon him for other crimes. he became his harshest critic michael cohen,
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showed that on behalf of trump, and he gave marsok 136.000. about 150,000 gave uh to a porn actress who claimed to have uh had a brief affair with trump. this actress has already made claims to trump, and then there was an agreement , a confidential agreement that she would be paid some kind of compensation, in which the countries would not be announced, and what is called she will turn the rag? when trump began to run for president , the support actress, who by that time had already lost her youth and her charm became
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humanly offensive, and she got a heightened sense of what was not given, and yes, as i would say, let's pay, more injuries, firstly, he denied that there was something between them, but secondly, he was very vulnerable position. he was just about to enter the republican primary at this point . and how much he needed this scandal, like a hole in his head. so although he denied that he had anything to do with this lady he was willing to pay and that money was paid by michael trump's company to run his business. handed this girl and then michael cohen, respectively.
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but how would the money in america be registered, and they registered this money as a payment to lawyers and the prosecutor, says what kind of payment to lawyers, and they say this, how to tell a woman with low social low social responsibility, they paid women of low social responsibility. uh, as if as a result of hunter it's not legal fees, well, on the one hand, the truth doesn't look much like normal lawyer fees on the other hand. you know what a very terrible crime. yes, somehow strange so at all this bright men. it's common in america, uh, not considered a serious crime. how to lead the right behavior? that's breaking the rules violation
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of the offense. yes, usually it is punishable by community service suspended sentence no one will spend millions of millions of dollars. in the description, all the facts that are correctly noted. this is usually considered a misdemeanor. it is very rare in the state of george where this charge is being prepared. uh, it's very rarely emfilated. yes, the level of crime and for this there are very thin precedent and what i heard, there uh trump team. e, very e is pleased that
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of all the cases that could be presented to him, they decided to present r. this is because it is the weakest, and they are completely sure that they are successful. if it gives before the court. it's still a big question, they will successfully win uh egg during the lawsuit, but also beyond that. and you know, there is one group of people who, uh, took this news with joy and delight, and it is his supporters that his supporters are sure that this is a huge political gift to him. well, because it's consolidating the republicans around him, as you've just seen, even his main rival had to step in and defend him. even mines is a former vice president who today one of
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his fierce critics has to buy in his defence. i think one of the calculations uh was that it would make the republicans uh turn their back on him, but something completely opposite happened to amuse everyone around him consolidated. and it can still handle the reaction against the democrats, so it is not at all a fact that what they are going to start. you, uh, it's not clear yet. if it happens, but if they start it, that it will work in their favor, of course, uh, biden. uh, the official is not involved in this local accusation, but trump is accusing biden of being the white white house of being behind this, you know mark. what worries me the most is not how it delivers. trump's problems, or how
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it helps him changes, uh, worries, because really it's kind of without precedent the pursuit. and uh, that's when i came, uh, to america in '73. eh, let's just say not everything. i liked america. and there was poverty and there was inequality, and , by the way, i didn't really like that they, uh , wrote the washington post newspaper about this, that the virginia state police received denunciations. and for the fact that someone had a same-sex relationship and broke into their houses and apartments without them causing any damage, there were a lot of things in public order, who would have thought, who could think, but here's one thing that the american judicial system, which was not perfect, was not very epilated, because
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there is absolutely nothing in the world. well, in general, it seemed to me that she was quite an independent professional. and although, of course, the prosecutor's judge had his own political preferences, but nevertheless they had it. here, if you like, respect for the profession and some moral brakes. now, when i look at what is happening with trump now, i get the feeling that these are some kind of professional moral brakes. just disappear. i am wrong. dmitry democrats and employees of the newell attorney's office, they would argue with you on this. they would say that it is important to put trump in jail precisely to prove that no one is higher than the law on this trump team his lawyers. they say that it is
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without precedent to interpret this law as they interpret it. and they are fully prepared to prove, it's in court and i will add that america does not consist only of new york and only from the office of this prosecutor the whole country looks at it. and it's a big question that the average american thinks about it. i don't think even a person who instinctively thinks that trump sometimes speaks out too much uh. well, he's not the most, uh, delicate person. for the fact that he can speak softer about some things or what , well, there are many people many people in america who do not like his e rhetoric in many ways, but even these people say that there is. uh, an obvious element, the politicization of the politicization, uh , of our legal system. and this is a big
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problem. and it doesn't have to be a supporter given trump to understand this, so you are completely correct. say that the consequences of what is happening are much wider than the election cycle of 24 years. this is a slow degradation. these are the basics of what makes america one of my assessments of the greatest countries, and this is one of the best judicial systems in the world. mag, thanks a lot. we will contact you again soon. thank you for your wise words and for your time. well , in general, uh, problems with the judicial system, they are not only in america, well, uh, in america at least, as if what they are trying to to do with trump, although this does not convince me very, very much. well, at least they do it within their formal powers. and then some strange
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group appeared that calls itself the international criminal court. who decided a little bit to file charges against the president of russia and in fact not the president of russia let's call a spade a spade to russia , because this is not about the fact that someone did something in their personal life, that someone stole something from them like the russian policy in ukraine that they decided they allowed themselves to be characterized as a war crime, although russia did not ratify that treaty on the basis of which it is not trying to make claims. by the way, china from the united states, they are trying to start this kind of persecution, i want to repeat russia and i'll be honest, this is a group actually. from my point of view, it does not deserve
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attention, and it is not very convenient for me even, what is called raising this topic in good company. and you know, well, that some kind of evil one really runs. moska then she writes. he's roaring something evil. well well that's what i'm worried that i see a tendency in certain circles to feel their complete impunity, running into russia, whether it's the issue of sanctions and the confiscation of russian assets, whether it's the issue of excluding russian athletes, and from international competitions, whether it's the question of who owns what - some museum exhibits that were exhibited from the crimea in the west and certainly belonged to the crimean museums. and suddenly, for some reason, they are transferred to ukraine well
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, uh, russia for a long time, but at different levels i explained them. what is absolute behavior illegally? well, in general, it obviously did n't work very well. you're right. absolutely what to do with this konstantin is this actually an act and how they react and the second is a higher level, which concerns more fundamental things. well, if you start with this act, then you correctly noticed it. this is, in fact, an encroachment on the sovereignty of russia, the formal legal sovereignty of russia, no less, of course, no one will tolerate this, no one will become russia the reaction to this can i interrupt attacks, they can only help putin in russia in the same way as
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attacks on trump can help at all, this does not mean that such things can still be allowed quite right, therefore, the reaction can be, firstly, this is, of course, a statement. they are the recognition of all these international criminal courts, which actually followed. i believe that there could be a diplomatic statement that any attempt to encroach on the security, health and imprisonment of the president of the russian federation will be considered as military aggression only and the president in general of all the people whom he is trying to punish, of course, the execution is quite rightly considered as military aggression against russia with all the ensuing consequences, up to the use of all types of weapons. here is such a moment, as such a statement was correctly noted, which contributed to strengthening the position of the president in russia. although
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, in theory, apparently they were counting on something else. and this is how they noticed this phenomenon of action of the same order with what is happening with trump. why is this happening? for this we need to rise to a very high civilizational level, we are moving into a new technological order in this new technological order, by the old elites, especially global ones or built on bank capital there. there is no place, the only way to ensure their survival is to build a world-wide unified state. for the last mundial unified state after they were guilty this project in the nineties due to the fact that the sovereignty in china of india of all others. there can only be one elimination by force sovereignty of key powers such as china india first. i think yes. this
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is interesting, but i have a slightly different approach to this issue. these states are acceptable terms by the methods of hybrid wars of traditional revolutions of unrest, it is not possible to implement profitable terms. this means that only the power lever of the west, the elites of the world, remains such a lever of power, under which the controlled united states of america remains only the military force, the military force of the united states of america in iraq in afghanistan showed its insufficiently high efficiency. especially when there is still this confrontation with china, therefore, there remains one chance, nuclear blackmail. nuclear blackmail about it they start talking about it quite actively. well, there is one obstacle to this nuclear blackmail russia with its nuclear potential, the ideal option
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for globalists is to take control of russia with its nuclear potential and synthesized nuclear potential by america , the united states dictate the will of the world, but there is another point even in the united states itself america an understanding has been formed of very influential layers of the fact that the united states of america is used by the global elites as a tool and in many cases contrary to the objective interests of the united states of america itself, and this is a group of people who, in the end, actually put forward trump and trump. this is not just a figure. it's a whole ideology. the landing force will, to one degree or another, repeat all this. in fact , the united states of america is being knocked out from under the support of the main support of the bridgehead by these people, these globalists, for whom just a biden is their tool,
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which i use in america as a tool for globalists before being a contract soldier. you will answer we have very little time to change. let's see what the investigative committee of russia decided to do about this. hmm, the investigative committee of russia opened a criminal case. regarding the prosecutor of the international criminal court. karim ahmad khan. judges of the international criminal zander acane razorio salvatora aidala and sergio chirurgio ugalde godinas in accordance with the convention for the prevention and punishment of a crime against internationally protected persons of 14 december 1973. heads of state enjoy absolute immunity from the jurisdiction of foreign states. and when and when it comes to a criminal case, most likely, you need to understand that just sending summonses to these people, but, probably, will not be
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insanely effective. well, yes, and just condemn them. it won't be insanely effective either , and uh, apply economic sanctions against them and it won't be effective. and i think it means that when is accepted such a decision, and the people under investigation that they must really understand that if they refuse , as they most likely refuse to cooperate with the investigation, then measures may be taken against them that will certainly not be announced in advance, but which ones can be effective, and which, let's say, these people may not like very much. it's true. yes, i'm done. that's it, that's why that's why the two key figures opposing the globalists trump and putin are being prosecuted trump along the line
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american system, and president putin along the line. that this international criminal court is far away very little time in this segment. yes, i'm dmitry briefly. the fact is that everything that was said is all wonderful, but in my opinion it's about something completely different. why because you understand? i perceive this as an act without responsibility of people, but in fact, they somehow talked about the brain that growls, barks and so on, and therefore once upon a time on our program. i said it still made sense to somehow react when uh did the head of finland or estonia do? some monstrous irresponsible statements. i said, you know, we should formulate the following. uh, it means that these states have not yet reached the level of logic of behavior.

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